acdcman2345 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 hey there everyone... i now own a Faded Epi G400 and love it. im going to be buying a new guitar soon. i was looking at the 1966 Epi G400 and a Gibson SG Standard. either way im going to put angus young signiture humbucker and a 57' humbucker into them. i only play at home for a hobbie. is it worth spending the extra 800 on just the guitar? im playing through a vox VT20+. i would love a gibson but just cant see the 800 dollar differents in the guitar shop. hope to hear back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I dunno man. If you were going to swap out all the electronics, I'd say just get the one that feels the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 1966 Epi G400 + angus young signiture humbucker + a 57' humbucker = How much money? How close are you getting to the Gibson now? Consider resale value too. Look at used prices on both - you'll find that every penny the Epi "saved" you has evaporated. The pickups won't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Welp...Duane lock this topic now! Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Welp...Duane lock this topic now! Please why? worried someone might suggest putting in EMG's insted? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 why? worried someone might suggest putting in EMG's insted? LOL No, ive seen many...many epi vs gibson topics turn very very ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 No, ive seen many...many epi vs gibson topics turn very very ugly. haha me too yea duane! hurry and lock it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG FAN Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 If you can afford it, yes the Gibson Standard is much better than the G-400. However I absolutely LOVE my Tony Iommi G-400, but it's a beater, and I wouldn't have bought it if not for the Gibson USA Iommi pickups and 24 fret neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Welp...Duane lock this topic now! Please Nah, I'd rather just delete posts ..... The thread starter is looking for real help, so I'll probably move the thread to where the Epi guys and gals can give a hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Nah, I'd rather just delete posts ..... The thread starter is looking for real help, so I'll probably move the thread to where the Epi guys and gals can give a hand haha he already made a thread about the same topic in the epi section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG FAN Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Why not put it in the Gibson SG section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Why not put it in the Gibson SG section? Sounds even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Nah, I'd rather just delete posts .....The thread starter is looking for real help, so I'll probably move the thread to where the Epi guys and gals can give a hand Great! They LOVE me over there in Epi-Land!!! As a matter of fact, that's where Duane and I first got acquainted, eh? (By the way Duane, thanks for indulging me and allowing the "Double Standard" thread to run as long as it did. I owe you a frosty adult beverage...) Okay, I'm outta here. See ya!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewddawg Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 If you are going to modify the guitar. I woud say modify an Epi. The Epi has grover tuners, so you are okay there. I have both Epi's and Gibby's and have been quite impressed with Epi's quality control. The Epi you talk about has the slim tapered neck. I really like them but just wanted to point it out. I don't modify Gibson's guitars myself. I buy them stock the way I want them. BTW if you modify the Epi pickups might as well do the pots and maybe the capacitors. You also by your call name seem to like AC/DC alot. Please note that Angus does not usually if ever use the signature pickups you refer to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 if you can't tell the difference between an Epi and a Gibson, buy the Epi. i personally would buy a better amp. ymmv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 if you can't tell the difference between an Epi and a Gibson, buy the Epi. i personally would buy a better amp. ymmv Fenn is hot on the trail here. I guess it really depends on what you WANT from your guitar when it's all boiled down. I bought my G-400 Deluxe Flametop new back in '04, it's been trouble-free, and after the initial "proper setup" has given flawless performance since new....the only drawbacks being that it's quite "neck heavy" causing the headstock to tend to dip toward the floor if i'm not using a wide leather strap, and the stock p'ups are good, but JUST good, and the total volume output is also "just good". On 10/2/10 my brand new Gibson SG Standard in Heritage Cherry arrived at my door, my wife had ordered it as a surprize b-day gift for me, I did the initial setup, which took all of 10 minutes, including neck/action/and p'up height adjustments. My G-400 hasn't been out of it's case since that day.....the Standard literally blows it away in terms of tone, and it's perfectly balanced, actually a bit heavy for an SG, which I love. I've since the pics replaced the "SG" Truss Cover with a plain cover, because it makes it sound better . So, it's basically a decision of a "REALLY good" guitar for $400, or a Great one for $1200.......lots of folks say it's not worth THAT much extra money, but to me personally, it's been worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hi, I already read this in the Epi forum and thought, let's see what the Gibson owners say. i now own a Faded Epi G400 and love it Why then do you want to buy a second one from Epi ... only because of the mentioned pickups? Why then don't you put them in the SG you already have? You could invest the spared money in something else, maybe effect pedals or a better headphone to play in the late evening? Or would you prefer to own the original? Maybe compare both, the Epi and the Gibby, again in different shops. I myself am an old LP fan and am in a similar situation ... playing alone at home ... jamming and recording. I wanted a guitar that feels and looks good and is a great allrounder. I bought an Epi Les Paul Tribute 60 TB and got what I wanted ... the 57 Gibson pickups in combination with the serial/parallel switch give me a lot of different great clean sounds and with a Line 6 Pocket Pod I can jam all night without disturbing anybody ... and I have a huge range of effect sounds, from Jazz over Blues to Crunch and even Metal. That's all I need ... so far ;) And what do YOU really need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellen Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 . Wait and see for what Gibson can offer for the sg's 40th anniversary next year, hope they come with some great models. Anyway take your time and save up, sooner or later you wanna have the real deal. Great as the g 400 is there's something special having a Gibson, for me that's worth every $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 . Wait and see for what Gibson can offer for the sg's 40th anniversary next year, hope they come with some great models. I just hope they don't price the 40th AV model absolutely out of reach for most.........and they can just keep all the "short neck tenon" ideas/models to themselves.....I won't buy 1. I'd personally love to see the 40th Standard model come with....2 pc maho body, long tenon maho neck, ebony fretboard, REAL m.o.p. trapeziod inlays, bone or "Tusq" nut, stainless steel frets, '57 Classic neck hb, '57 Classic Plus bridge hb, classic point to point wiring (no PCB), and a simple gold-plated TRC with "40th Anniversary" on it, priced at or below $2500 retail....... I'd buy THAT in a heartbeat !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 do you mean 50th anniversary? the SG's 40th Anniversary was in 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG FAN Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 and they can just keep all the "short neck tenon" ideas/models to themselves.....I won't buy 1. As far as I know, no SGs have ever had short neck tenons. When I tore my faded down to refin it, I noticed the tenon went pretty far into the neck pickup cavity. Short tenons don't go past the fretboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellen Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 do you mean 50th anniversary? the SG's 40th Anniversary was in 2001. :-" Well mathematics wasn't my strong side on school, but 1961 to 2011 even i should get that on right :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I thought that was the reason for the change to the full-face pg in '66 was because of the change over from short to long........but i'm definitely no expert, and have been wrong before. And evidently my math sux too.....the SG is 2 yrs older than me, and i'm 47, not 37.......wishful thinking maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 i'm 47, not 37.......wishful thinking maybe? You're not alone ... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman5293 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 If you buy that Epiphone junker now, you'll regret not buying the Gibson for the rest of your life. Thats all I'm saying so I don't get in trouble for having an opinion again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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