Sinner 13 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Lookin' good. It's kinda like waiting for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibson125es Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Nice guitar, I am refinishing a es125 not easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Amazing....... [thumbup] ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Retro, I probably will not add the valute as it would just be kinda stuck on and not really providing any support. I suppose I could dowel it in or add it just for looks... Who knows... Andy Dowel the volute in two areas, and it will add some structural integrity.... gotta have the volute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 Dowel the volute in two areas, and it will add some structural integrity.... gotta have the volute Yeah I was thinking that... I am going to run some dowels through the original neck tenon into where my " add on" for the long tenon is just to make sure there is some more stability there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57classic Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yeah I was thinking that... I am going to run some dowels through the original neck tenon into where my " add on" for the long tenon is just to make sure there is some more stability there as well. Andy, if you can, a more structurally sound (no pun intended) solution would be a floating tenon instead of dowels. Dowels have very little surface area to bond. More than half the surface area of a dowel is bonding to end grain, which is weak at best. If interested, I can elaborate. Just my $.02 from my experience as a woodworker. I really enjoy reading this thread and how fearless and creative you are. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Andy, if you can, a more structurally sound (no pun intended) solution would be a floating tenon instead of dowels. Dowels have very little surface area to bond. More than half the surface area of a dowel is bonding to end grain, which is weak at best. If interested, I can elaborate. Just my $.02 from my experience as a woodworker. I really enjoy reading this thread and how fearless and creative you are. Cheers Yes please elaborate... I am always into learning new tricks. Glad you're enjoying the thread too. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Today was about getting the pickups routed and the neck tenon fine tuned to fit correctly... As I said I was going to try to route the pickup cavities using a bottom bearing flush cut bit but the nut that holds the bearing on was too big so that wouldn't work. I found another bit with a slightly smaller hex bolt head to keep the bearing on and thought I had the problem solved I even grinded the bolt head down a bit but it just wasn't going to fly. So I went back to top routing by using some double stick tape and some straight pieces of board to box in the pick up area. I also drilled out the corners with a drill bit to give it a radius and used a forstner bit to drill out as much as I could before routing. I used my overhead routing jig and a flush cut bit with a top bearing and did a combo template/freehand cut with a pretty decent result. No perfect but it will do.... SOOOOOO Close but no luck!!! Doesn't hurt to try.... Glad I made a quick sketch of the body cavities or I could have gone way off track and cut into the cable route. That would have been ugly... So I marked some danger zones with tape. Forgot to get a close up of the pickup cavities but I'm sure they will show up in some other pics Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Probably the most critical part of this entire rebuild is getting the neck set correctly. It is a bit tricky and tedious especially without real templates, a band saw and trying to use a modified piece... But I think I have managed to do it... I got about 95 % of the tenon cut and fitting snug into the mortise. Once I got that set I cut the angles where the neck heel joins the body. I used my digital angle finder and transferred the angle to the neck tenon. Then I marked the angle with a razor blade. Then I just hammered the razor blade into the wood to make the cut. It's hard to see but the angle is reading right at 4.2 degrees which is what I was looking for... The digital level disagrees a bit but I trust the physical contact that the angle finder has more than the level. The level will fluctuate + or - a degree just sitting still... ( Should have got the craftsman) Nice tight joint It's getting closer!!!! ( by the way the bottom pickup route looks funky because I have sharpie marking where not to route...) Next is finishing the headstock shape and adding the veneer... (and maybe adding a valoute) Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Wow! Over 5000 views! I'm very honored that people have an interest in my project... Keep on viewing there is much more to come! Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I'm gonna be disappointed when you start refinishing and pictures start coming less often, but I'm definately looking forward to the sound clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Natural Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Day 1 million - times flies, eh, Andy. Seriously, it's looking good. Youda man, Andy. This is a great thread, and it looks like you're doing a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 Today I finally got around to putting my binding plys together and routed the top for the 6 ply binding it. I am going to do it in three steps. I have a 3 layer binding already on now. Then I will do a 2 layer binding around that and then the final wide binding. I have no real reason for doing it this way other than I thought it would make the horn binding a bit easier. So here are some pics: Until tomorrow... Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbreslauer Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 looking at these most recent pics, the top has some really interesting figure to it: no chance of bringing that out? :) Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 looking at these most recent pics, the top has some really interesting figure to it: no chance of bringing that out? :) Don It's funny I was looking at that too. The middle piece is pretty nice. I just don't think 3 piece tops look very good with translucent finish.... I did pick the best pieces I could from my $15.00 maple board I bought Just i case i want to try it but for now my plan is still for aged white paint RR look... Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbreslauer Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 It's funny I was looking at that too. The middle piece is pretty nice. I just don't think 3 piece tops look very good with translucent finish.... I did pick the best pieces I could from my $15.00 maple board I bought Just i case i want to try it but for now my plan is still for aged white paint RR look... Andy you will always have those options, like all those refinished 50's goldtops... it's gonna be a beautiful guitar, whatever you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 you will always have those options, like all those refinished 50's goldtops... it's gonna be a beautiful guitar, whatever you choose. I'm thinking after I finally finish this one I will build an actual faithful rendition of a Black Beauty Custom ( since I already got the tools out and have a mess in progress) and then maybe one of these days a nice burst Standard...I know this guitar is not going to turn out perfect but it will definitely be mine so I am only hoping it plays and sounds halfway decent. I will be much pickier on a complete build... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 So today I got the top binding finished. All six layers are now all glued on. I noticed on the build forums a lot of people didn't add the wide binding in the horn and just left it maple. I wanted to do it the way the custom looks so I added the wide binding. I have a seam that I will have to fill but when I'm completely finished with the scraping I think it won't be too noticeable. So here are the pics of the day... Thanks to Duane V for sending me a pic of his guitar for reference!!! I think after a little more detail work it is going to turn out pretty nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 It's looking great already Andy, very nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krock Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I was showing my mum the progress you've made with your build and she said it's looking way better than it did as standard. She doesnt compliment often so that's pretty good :) Btw, do you know what colour finish your doing yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I was showing my mum the progress you've made with your build and she said it's looking way better than it did as standard. She doesnt compliment often so that's pretty good :) Btw, do you know what colour finish your doing yet? He was doing an aged white RR look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnate McDuanus Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Beautiful work Andy. This is going to end up a swell guitar. While you're at it (I've already forgotten since the thread started so long ago ,) did you have any plans on updating the electronics or the hardware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Beautiful work Andy. This is going to end up a swell guitar. While you're at it (I've already forgotten since the thread started so long ago ,) did you have any plans on updating the electronics or the hardware? Thanks man I sure hope so. I tell you I believe I could have built 2 guitars from scratch in the time this has taken me. You are correct it will be an Aged Cream/yellow white like Randy Rhoads. It's my own little tribute guitar. Concerning what I'm replacing: I already have a new Tone Pros Bridge and Tail Piece, New Kluson Waffle back Tuners, New 3 Way Switch, New Pick Guard and Bracket. I am going to order a gold selector switch ring which I'm thinking about counter sinking into the body. I am basically replacing everything except the pickups and volume and tone pots. I want to hear what it sounds like when I'm done and determine if I want some different pickups or stick with the stock ones. Thanks for the encouragement! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 It's looking great already Andy, very nice work. Thanks Jeff... I'm getting a little burnt but the encouragement keeps me going! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I was showing my mum the progress you've made with your build and she said it's looking way better than it did as standard. She doesnt compliment often so that's pretty good :) Btw, do you know what colour finish your doing yet? Well I feel very honored[biggrin] Always good to be Mum approved! Tell her Thank You for me Please. Kind Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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