PickyPick Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 ive been looking through guitar fetish and there are ALOT of stuff that i really like for a fraction of the mainstream stuff... "Grover Imperial" style tuners for 30 bucks... but now i gotta ask... is it 30 dollars for a reason? Why are Grover's $69 and Guitar Fetish has a similar replica for half that price?... material? performance? this question pretty much goes out to all other products (Pots, caps, bridges, tailpieces, etc) except their pickups. And i always wanted a Flying V but i'm sorta Strapped for Cash and i saw the interesting Kit they have on for $150 im curious to whether anyone actually bought and built that and if they did how does it sound. And another question that's completely off topic... i recently found out that if your going to do a practice session for 4 hours on a thin strap with a HEAVY Les Paul its going to absolutely DEMOLISH your shoulders... to a point where you bring in the SG the very next day because your shoulder is still suffering from the night before... can anyone recommend me a cheap (like under 60 bucks)wide strap that can make a practice like that more bearable? i looked at Levy's and Franklin's and they are FAR to expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_J Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I've also thought that myself. I'm looking for a pair of Grover rotomatics and was looking at the GFS versions. Was wondering if anyone could attest to the quality of the product. I've bought knobs and a bridge and both were great, but as far as functionality goes there's not really much to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I've bought locking tuners from GFS, they're fantastic quality for the price, a smooth and stable as anything else I have, and I've got quiet a few cork-sniffers. All the pots I have bought from them have been Alpha push-pulls, pretty good quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 I've also thought that myself. I'm looking for a pair of Grover rotomatics and was looking at the GFS versions. Was wondering if anyone could attest to the quality of the product. I've bought knobs and a bridge and both were great, but as far as functionality goes there's not really much to it. i really don't feel like spending $60 dollars on a new pair of tuners... my Sheraton Needs them though but for 60 dollars she doesn't need them that bad >.> but at the same time i dont want to gamble with GF Imperial Tuners either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy01 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I buy all my tuners from GFS. I buy the locking tuners, but I have also bought the Grover copies, and they are very good quality. And, GFS stands up for their product. I bought a set of tuners, and one of the nuts broke while I was installing them. I emailed GFS and they promptly sent me a new tuner. Another time I bought a Tele bridge to use with one of their bodies. The bridge didn't fit. Again I emailed them and they sent me the proper bridge, and did not ask me to return the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 I buy all my tuners from GFS. I buy the locking tuners, but I have also bought the Grover copies, and they are very good quality. And, GFS stands up for their product. I bought a set of tuners, and one of the nuts broke while I was installing them. I emailed GFS and they promptly sent me a new tuner. Another time I bought a Tele bridge to use with one of their bodies. The bridge didn't fit. Again I emailed them and they sent me the proper bridge, and did not ask me to return the original. and with that kind of review that puts the final nail in the coffin really... time to upgrade my sherry and save about 300 dollars doing it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl00dsm0k3 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 never dealt with them before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 If everything turns out as great it is... then ill be going back to upgrading my Gibson SG... i was trying to turn everything gold making it a Golden SG but the mainstream prices have haulted me from doing that... Gibson "Tulip" Gold tuners 70 bucks... Tone Pros set in gold runs 120 bucks... all the little screws 8 dollars... now i shall continue work on the SG getting rid of the Chrome/Nickle pieces! Of Course Sheraton is going to be my bench mark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I have purchased several sets of pup, and other hardware from GFS. As to the tuners, I bought a set of the Vintage Green Keystone tuners for a project guitar. I had a G-400 with the headstock broken off and didn't want to put too much money into it. The tuners are okay, but definitely not at the Grover level. I have put 3 sets of Grover Vintage Green Keystones on guitars I either have or had. The Grover feel like a much better quality tuner. Personally, I would go Grover over GFS for tuner. I have purchased several sets of pups and have been happy with all but a couple sets (Dream 180s and Neovin Noiseless Strat ups). I have been happy with the Vintage 59s and Alnico IIs. I also bought a set of pups for a Tele that I had that I liked, don't remember now what they were though. But, this is all subjective to taste, they all worked fine. I would say that pups are their strongest items, for me anyway. I won't buy pots from them any more. They aren't any better than the pots in stock Epis. I have purchased Alpha pots from Stewmac that only cost a little more, but are of much better quality (brass bushings and a much smoother feel). Stewmac $2.73 GFS $2.45 They do have a descent price on Orange Drop caps, but the shipping will kill you if that is all you are buying. As far a switches and jacks, I highly recommend Switchcraft. They cost a little more, but you get what you pay for. Once you put it in you won't have to change it again. GFS doesn't sell them. I have purchased a couple of switches from GFS and wound up replacing them with Switchcraft. I have purchased a couple of Wilkinson roller bridges from GFS and they are really nice. Bottom line, some of their stuff is an upgrade and some is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 If everything turns out as great it is... then ill be going back to upgrading my Gibson SG... i was trying to turn everything gold making it a Golden SG but the mainstream prices have haulted me from doing that... Gibson "Tulip" Gold tuners 70 bucks... Tone Pros set in gold runs 120 bucks... all the little screws 8 dollars... now i shall continue work on the SG getting rid of the Chrome/Nickle pieces! Of Course Sheraton is going to be my bench mark... Gibson tuners are made by Grover, but they say Gibson. If you don't care, you can cut the cost by getting Grover Vintage greens here. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Grover_Tuners/Grover_Deluxe_Keystones.html You might be able to pick up a set of gold Gibson pup covers and solder them to the pups you have. You just need a pretty hot iron to de-solder and solder the new ones on. http://www.allparts.com/Humbucking-Pickup-Covers-Gold-p/pc-0300-002.htm As far as the bridges and tailpieces go, GFS will not fit. They are metric and your Gibby SG is not. There are other options other than TonePros. Disregard what I said in my earlier post about pots. If you have a Gibby, your electronics probably don't need replacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 All of the above......IMHO, [thumbup] ... I buy their blemished guitars to raise my geetar count.....Many are actually playable as well........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookkeeper's Son Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I haven't purchased a lot from Guitar Fetish, but I've been satisfied with everything I have bought, especially the Mean 90 pickups. I noticed that some of their Grover look alikes are Jinho brand, same as the ones on my Epi. They are actually smoother than the genuine Grovers I bought for another guitar. Next time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungrycat Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Their pickups are awesome, their hardware is good, and their electrical components are crappy crappy crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 Gibson tuners are made by Grover, but they say Gibson. If you don't care, you can cut the cost by getting Grover Vintage greens here. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Grover_Tuners/Grover_Deluxe_Keystones.html You might be able to pick up a set of gold Gibson pup covers and solder them to the pups you have. You just need a pretty hot iron to de-solder and solder the new ones on. http://www.allparts.com/Humbucking-Pickup-Covers-Gold-p/pc-0300-002.htm As far as the bridges and tailpieces go, GFS will not fit. They are metric and your Gibby SG is not. There are other options other than TonePros. Disregard what I said in my earlier post about pots. If you have a Gibby, your electronics probably don't need replacing. So is guitar fetish more or less for upgrading forign guitars? Seeing my Gibby can't take much if the stuff I wanted it to have and it already has gold humbuckers... Which inspired me to turn the whole guitar gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Gibson tuners are made by Grover, but they say Gibson. If you don't care, you can cut the cost by getting Grover Vintage greens here. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Grover_Tuners/Grover_Deluxe_Keystones.html Is modding required to fit them in Epi's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Is modding required to fit them in Epi's? You just have to drill 12 holes. I put them on my '56 GT, my G-400 with Maestro and a '57 JR. that I sold. They dropped right in. These tuners require a 10mm hole. I think most Epis have that. I would say if there are Rotomatics on your Epi they should be a drop in replacement. Like I said above, I did need to drill 12 holes in the back of the headstock for the tuners. When you drill the holes, put sown some masking tape so you don't crack or chip the finish. The bottom hole didn't line up, so I needed to drill another. Also, the back of the tuner won't quit cover the left over hole. About 15% on the holes shows, but you have to be really close and behind the guitar to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesbrekr Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Their pickups are awesome, their hardware is good, and their electrical components are crappy crappy crappy. Ditto..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Their pickups are awesome, their hardware is good, and their electrical components are crappy crappy crappy.My experience as well. I've bought several sets of their tuners and they're a very good value for the money. The don't say Grover,Gibson, Kluson, or Schaller on them, but for the guits I bought them for they don't need to. I've bought some of their pickups too, and they're not bad at all, and definitely a major upgrade from some of the entry-level Asian stuff Epiphone installs. For a few dollars more you can get into some Kent Armstrongs and for a lot more Gibson or boutique pickups, but for a sub $500 guitar probably not wise to sink that kind of dough into it. GFS pots, switches, wire, and electronics are sub-par, get that stuff from All Parts. i really don't feel like spending $60 dollars on a new pair of tuners... my Sheraton Needs them though but for 60 dollars she doesn't need them that bad >.> but at the same time i dont want to gamble with GF Imperial Tuners either... What's wrong with the current tuners on your Sherry? I have two older Sherrys and the tuners are fine. Maybe you have a nut problem - that's more often than not the source of tuning issues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 What's wrong with the current tuners on your Sherry? I have two older Sherrys and the tuners are fine. Maybe you have a nut problem - that's more often than not the source of tuning issues.... ehh i don't think that's it... i had this guitar sent to a tech to have it set up and everything... also i did buy this second hand perhaps the guy changed them out before he sold it to me and kept the good tuners or something not sure... anyway they do stay in tune but over a period of time they drop half step (worst I've seen) anyway that was one occasion but the strings generally don't stay in tune... my other guitars Fender, Gibson, and Casino all pretty much stay in tune for a LONG time... only way they go out of tune is if i bring it outside where the temp difference is +/- 40 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 Stuff that then... turns out Guitar Fetish doesnt accept Amex Gift Cards and i dont feel like waiting a Week for my money order to be recieved... so just went on amazon and got the Rotomatic Imperials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Ha, that'll look sweet on a Sherry. Post some pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Only thing I don't like about imperials is they don't work well with string winders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'll get dome pica up as soon as I get my pickguard and the imperials and that's ok for me cause I don't use a string winder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyGibson Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Looks like I'm a little late to this party. But, you can buy just the buttons and keep the grover machines: http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/tuners_partsbuttons.htm All Parts sells them too. Much easier mod than changing the whole tuner. I'm thinking of doing this. Just can't decide if I want to do it both both my Sherri and EJ200. Or just the Sherri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Looks like I'm a little late to this party. But, you can buy just the buttons and keep the grover machines: http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/tuners_partsbuttons.htm All Parts sells them too. Much easier mod than changing the whole tuner. I'm thinking of doing this. Just can't decide if I want to do it both both my Sherri and EJ200. Or just the Sherri. well the whole tuner is kinda messed up and goes out of tune so i think im better off actually changing the whole tuner... if that were the case id go for the button idea but it seems the Sherry does need a good upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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