daveinspain Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Just wondering what most people think about the lead to Hotel California... Seems like one could gain a lot by learning it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 It's a good solo to master......Both parts........Is it a hard solo to learn ??? That's rather subjective depending on one's skill level........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Playing it note-for-note would be an exorcise in memory for sure. I don't think they even play it all perfect at concerts...but why would you? There are parts that have two guitar players playing a figure that would have to be remembered...if you wanted to play it live like they do with another guitar player. I think if you were learning it note-for-note just because would gain much if you were just trying to get through it...kinda redundant. But if one was to learn it and study it instead of just learning the notes, it has a LOT of licks in it by more than one player that can give a lot of insight. I think for songs that a guy really likes that they have pretty much committed to memory, learning solos you are familiar with is a good way to go because it is more fun to learn, and it is good to learn stuff you like. I mean, if you like it, why not play it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 it was one of the first guitar solos I ever learned...it did take me a few weeks to get it though... there are kinda 2 lead parts in the song I only learned the lead part that Don/Steuart play ...perhaps I should take on Joe's part now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I learned it at some point in time when I was at my peak as a player. The phrasing and the slide part of the solo that Joe Walsh laid down is tough to do when using a pinky slide, while playing the other parts of the solo that don't require a slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzoboy Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I couple of guys I used to jam with (one I actually played a few gigs with)could do the whole solo note for note with every little bend nuance etc. and one of the guys was mainly a drummer.They did a top notch job of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavestate Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I LOVE JETHRO TULL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sJA_VF5c7U The Eagles stole that ****, so **** them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 I LOVE JETHRO TULL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sJA_VF5c7U The Eagles stole that ****, so **** them. I love Tull too and although you can hear similarities in the Tull song and the Eagles song I don't think you can say they stole the song. It's more like the capitalized on a good chord structure... I mean if that were the case you would have to say Tull stole it from Bach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I don't think I've ever even tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 I don't think I've ever even tried. Of course not, you're AXE®... I meant regular people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 lolz! Thanks Dave. Now you have me thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Although I've spent time learning key parts of it I can't say I'm even bothered to play the whole thing note for note straight through. Now, Life In The Fast Lane yes. Always found that one more fun to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 The lead sounds great. I think it fits the song well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I LOVE JETHRO TULL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sJA_VF5c7U The Eagles stole that ****, so **** them. To me that has more of a waltz 3/4 time signature........ Hotel California has a 4/4 time signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Like AXE, I've never tried to play it. I've tinkered around with the rhythm but never really learned it either. I don't know why I've never learned that song because I love that song. There are few great songs that I love but never learned how to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavestate Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Yes, different time signature, key... However, they derived it from Jethro Tull, and hearing them play it live while on tour with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Sure they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 When you play that Tull song backwards, it's the lyrics to Hotel California......Just sayin'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavestate Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 When you play that Tull song backwards, it's the lyrics to Hotel California......Just sayin'.... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaysEpiphone Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I'm not a hard-core lead ripper but it's not a difficult song really. So no, I don't know the lead but I know the riff's and chord structure's. And I do enjoy the Eagle's music, hey... They got a singing drummer! that put's them in the better band's section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 The Eagles and Jethro Tull were both going for that Flamenco flavor, hence the Spanish style Root/Third lead figures and circle of fifths based chord run. Probably find Robbie Krieger doing it a few years before Tull. As for how hard it is to play....it's very hard. It's hard to play the guitar, let alone replicate dueling lead parts on one guitar. If you can play it that simply means you can do something that's difficult, it doesn't make it easy. Even after you've internalized it to the point of making it look easy, still aint easy. Even if it only takes you ten minutes to get the parts note perfect, that only means you can do something hard without a lot of practice and you should be proud of yourself. If you can play Metropolis by Dream Theater in it's entirety without missing a note, it doesn't make playing Hotel California any easier. That just means you've mastered the art of doing very difficult things. So no, it ain't easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazerface Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 If you can do something thats difficult without a lot of practice....that means its easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 If you can do something thats difficult without a lot of practice....that means its easy No, that means you can easily do something that's difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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