Silverbursted Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Found this today. Pretty sad story, but he should have checked it out first. E-Bay ripoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBENDS Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I never buy on Ebay or other sites like that for this very reason. I would rather spend my hard earned $ on a new guitar that I can see, hold, & play knowing that I can get my $$ back if I'm not satisfied. That guy is lucky he got his $ back. This is the season for thieves to do what they do (Christmas time & the bad Economy). Lock your doors and don't leave your precious equipment in your car unattended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryvincent Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 wow! fakes are getting better! everything(body, headstock shapes) is getting closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbursted Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 wow! fakes are getting better! everything(body' date=' headstock shapes) is getting closer.[/quote']Thats because the counterfeiters hang out in the forums reading about how to spot a fake then fixing the shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 They should shove those fakes up the sellers asses and then super glue them shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/gibson-les-pauls/25681-help-need-advice-ebay-item-not-shipped-jimmy-page-tom-murphy.html now this is bad....REAL bad. but here is why you should never EVER use bank wires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basshole Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 They should shove those fakes up the sellers asses and then super glue them shut. how about take the exact same guitar and stick in you knnow were, body first. this would would esp. suck if the guitar had pointer knobs.ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 wow! fakes are getting better! everything(body' date=' headstock shapes) is getting closer.[/quote']Thats because the counterfeiters hang out in the forums reading about how to spot a fake then fixing the shortcomings. Exactly. I suggest blowing off those "Is this fake?" threads from now on or just replying with "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is" rather than commenting on them. Hey, we all like to show off how we can spot a fake Gibson from a mile away but who is it really helping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 It goes with the SpeakerCraft speakers he has perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd_artist Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I know the guy is pissed off, but read his auction. he did (after much work) get his money back and he still has the pos firewood, I would think that a smart scam artist would have closed his ebay account and disappeared. All I am trying to say is there is something fishy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Paul Fanatic Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 THOSE MOTHER****ERS, who the hell do they think they are?! Are they ever going to learn, or does someone need to kick their counterfeitin' asses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeeZe_ Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 wow! fakes are getting better! everything(body' date=' headstock shapes) is getting closer.[/quote'] The serial number is still wrong, it starts with a 7, which means it should be a 57 re-issue. And they still don't even try to make the Gibson logo look like mother of pearl. And the case looks like utter crap too. The scammers probably used pictures of the real thing in the original action, they probably hoped the buyer wouldn't notice the difference when the guitar arrived. Never buy if the seller cannot provide you with some fresh pictures, and even then they could be fooling you. Buying something for a lot of money without seeing irl first always has it's risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermionik Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Maybe we could seed false information to the fakers..... .....but better would be some way of encouraging potential buyers to get it checked either someplace like this, or by the manufacturers. If Gibson would check out the auction of a Gibson for a potential purchaser, the fakers would have a real struggle to pass fakes off as real. All the manufacturers are hot on VERO and so on - maybe they could get pro-active instead of reactive. Heck - last time I ebayed some Rolex watch-back spanners, they were held up 24 hours whilst Rolex verified them. Why can't Gibson, Fender, Epi, Gretsch and the rest do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I know the guy is pissed off' date=' but read his auction. he did (after much work) get his money back and he still has the pos firewood, I would think that a smart scam artist would have closed his ebay account and disappeared. All I am trying to say is there is something fishy here.[/quote'] Im with rd on this one... Paypal are SH*T...PERIOD Flight959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 THOSE MOTHER****ERS' date=' who the hell do they think they are?! Are they ever going to learn, or does someone need to kick their [b']dumb, cheap, want to buy something for nothing[/b] asses? Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I agree with Rich and gitarest, we should stop giving info to noobs that create accounts and the first thing they ask is "is this a fake?"... we should give that info (how to spot a fake and if the guitar in question is a fake and why) only to known members and via private messages. So... regular forum members... does this get a yea or nay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Paul Fanatic Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I agree with Rich and gitarest' date=' we should stop giving info to noobs that create accounts and the first thing they ask is "is this a fake?"... we should give that info (how to spot a fake and if the guitar in question is a fake and why) only to known members and via private messages. So... regular forum members... does this get a yea or nay?[/quote'] Yea from my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Neither a vote nor looking for an agreement will do any good, TG: 1) Not everyone will read this thread 2) Not everyone will be able to resist showing off how they can spot a fake Personally, I have no sympathy for the guy who got ripped off in that auction. He thought he was going to buy a $3700 guitar "FOR A COOL $1630 DOLLARS." He must have had an idea of what those guitars sell for new and I can guess a few possibilities that might be as to what was going through his head at the time he decided to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I dont think any of the members here are responsible for helping the wankers fake guitars.. Its easy, real easy to find in depth information photos etc etc on official sites on anything that you want to copy.. You only need a genuine instrument in your hands Gibson even has its own section on its website on how to spot a fake... If you think "we" are responsible for helping these people either directly or indrectly to fake instruments then you'd better get in the real world...!!!!!! Flight959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 i'm wondering why you guys still care? it makes me laugh a little bit to see you guys puff up and thump your chests and say "how dare they!" who gives a sh!t! anyone who genuinely gets hosed i feel sympathy for. but like Rich said, the buyer should have known better. if he couldnt tell that guitar was so obviously fake, then he had no business buying it in the first place. its kinda like when noobs show up and say, i am going to buy either a LP Standard or a 1959 VOS Reissue. Which should i get? if you cant tell the difference between prime rib and hamburger, then for god's sake, save your money and get the hamburger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_HEWC Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Interesting reading here, I sure feel sorry for both guys especially the one "buying" the JP les paul for $15K and not even getin' fire wood... I'll sure warn my brother who has been buying stuff over the net, he hasn't been suckered yet, but you 'll never know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynadude Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Found this today. Pretty sad story' date=' but he should have checked it out first.E-Bay ripoff Man, I feel for that cat, but he was really stupid to pay that way. Really stupid. It's posted all over eBay that you should NEVER pay via direct transfer. He ignored the warnings, and lost BIG time. These con artists count on stupidity and laziness, and they will always be around to take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/gibson-les-pauls/25681-help-need-advice-ebay-item-not-shipped-jimmy-page-tom-murphy.html now this is bad....REAL bad. but here is why you should never EVER use bank wires. Sorry for saying this, but I think this guy is plain stupid. There, I said it. He is trying to be nice and protect the guy "whose identity was stolen/used"... c´mon! He should sue his ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Neither a vote nor looking for an agreement will do any good' date=' TG: 1) Not everyone will read this thread 2) Not everyone will be able to resist showing off how they can spot a fake Personally, I have no sympathy for the guy who got ripped off in that auction. He thought he was going to buy a $3700 guitar "FOR A COOL $1630 DOLLARS." He must have had an idea of what those guitars sell for new and I can guess a few possibilities that might be as to what was going through his head at the time he decided to buy it.[/quote'] I know what you mean and couldnt agree more... but hey, I think the ones that read this post can do their part, I also agree with you: no sympathy for that guy. I know some guys like him, they think they are going to rip off the seller... they think they know everything and aint no one gonna tell them otherwise. And then they go and get f-cked. Anyone hoping to get a 3500 guitar (or any good), like new, for (say) 300 bucks, should get ripped off by one of these a-holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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