jedzep Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Got my hands on this Guild small bod today. There are several reasons to have not bought it, but I think I stumbled on to another taste of honey. Small bods rule. https://reverb.com/item/3115830-guild-f-20-natural-60s-body-70s-neck-s036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Those are good little Guitars.. Congrats.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Congrats on the find Guild makes some very good guitars, I have a 12 string that I like ok, I mean I bought a cheaper model and it was worth the money. I have played some others that they make that I thought were good. Have fun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I do love Guilds, but the condition of that one would worry me. I typically won't go any lower than "very good" condition-wise on anything under consideration. It seems like on Reverb, a lot of folks tend to oversell the condition of their instrument. On the other hand, sleepers do come along from time to time. Hopefully when you get it in hand, it will structurally be good to go. Let us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yes, I did shop this with furrowed brow and plenty of questions. The bridge has a horizontal crack running through the pins, but I own a couple vintage BRW belly bridges that my luthier can swap out if need be. Despite claims of needing a reset the string height is 4/64ths down in the cowboy zone and not more than 1/8" up high, so I should be able to play that OK, especially tuned down which I do anyway. I'm used to rehabbing old acoustics, trying to stay optimistic, and normally, I wouldn't go near a 'Frankenstein', but it's a Guild model I've been chasing for a while. Gotta' do my part to keep my little guitar shop repair bench busy. y'know. Returns (gulp) accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Now thats just rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Small bods rule. Congrats on that F20! I'm kinda partial to the jumbos, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Thanks! I have to come here for uplift and encouragement. My family just scowls and rolls their eyes. They had better come around and at least fake the joy or I'll bequeath the guitars to my trusty dog Vito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfish Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I didn't see a label, a 60s Hoboken Guild should be a fine guitar. Even if it needs some work They have longer and thinner bridges than latter models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 To make a long story longer...I've been getting Guild Forum warnings and support about this guitar and CME, that apparently was returned at least once already. An in-hand CME staffer who played it gave it a good review, however just from the description it shouldn't really be listed as in VG condition. Later pics sent to me showed a faint image of a definite Hoboken label. Whew! At least there's one verifiable aspect. I see other funny details, a cracked bridge across the center of the bridge pins and a weird looking edge on the pick guard that appears to be a bad trim job. Who knows? I spent some time back and forth with the staffer who started hinting that if I was unsure, they would cancel and refund at the exact same time UPS was sending me a track # and 'shipped' notice. So funny. This morning I woke up to an email from Reverb that the guitar was relisted and I could make a best offer. Alright...sure that's a timing issue, anyway, someone oughta' let the UPS driver know he's got an empty box on board. I'm buying it with the knowledge I might snag a great player after I put a little work into it. I only own rehabbed guitars, when it comes down to it. One forumite suggested I find out what adhesive was used in the newer neck install because it might not be so easy to remove for a reset. Whaaa?! Got string height measurement of 4/64ths at the 3rd and 1/8 inch at the 10th. Hell, I'll play that all day long, especially at the D-D down-tuning I play at. Stress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 . I've had a few Guild guitars over the years - currently have two. Wishing you the best on this one. . B) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Davis Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Nice! I wouldn't mind owning one of those. Speaking of Guilds, are the Fender era models any better or worse than the earlier ones or roughly the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Speaking of Guilds, are the Fender era models any better or worse than the earlier ones or roughly the same? To Guild's great benefit, Fender apparently kept their mitts off the design and construction of the Guilds. I think the consensus is that Guild quality is generally very stable throughout the years, although there are certainly those who swear by the Westerlys, and I imagine the Hobokens are coveted too. My Corona-made JF30-12 (a blinged down F412 - it doesn't get better than this) has a 1 inch square decal on the back of the headstock says "Fender Hand-crafted in Corona, California." Just letting people know who's paying the salaries and the bills, I guess.... Actually, I think the more recent New Hartford production took everything up a notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 My five Westerly Guilds are all pre-Fender, which purchased Guild in 1995, so I can't speak first hand to changes thereafter, but I've read that things did not change appreciably at Westerly after the purchase (some additional QC steps were apparently put in place). Mine span a range from 1973 to 1994, and the quality remained consistently high. So many good guitars out there to enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky1 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 The "New Hartford" models are very well thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 Short story...the Guild rolled in on the big brown truck, I peeled the poorly shaped p'guard off the over sprayed top with the edge of a Tortex pick, cleaned the glue off, buffed the top to a nice satin gloss, pulled the sloppy saddle that was leaning hard and splitting the r'wood against the bridge slot wall, smeared hide glue down in there, cut and shaped a nice new bone saddle, slapped the saddle in and strung up with new 80/20 12's. and HOLY CRAP, I got a real sweet little box. The sturdy build of an LG2 with the tone of a 0018. It's a remarkable instrument, but will need some tweaking. Also remarkable that it was listed in VG condition. CME hung a little loose on the description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Short story...the Guild rolled in on the big brown truck, I peeled the poorly shaped p'guard off the over sprayed top with the edge of a Tortex pick, cleaned the glue off, buffed the top to a nice satin gloss, pulled the sloppy saddle that was leaning hard and splitting the r'wood against the bridge slot wall, smeared hide glue down in there, cut and shaped a nice new bone saddle, slapped the saddle in and strung up with new 80/20 12's. and HOLY CRAP, I got a real sweet little box. The sturdy build of an LG2 with the tone of a 0018. It's a remarkable instrument, but will need some tweaking. Also remarkable that it was listed in VG condition. CME hung a little loose on the description. Sounds promising, JZ! BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Yep...promising, to say the least. I did have it in the back of my mind to keep my herd rotating and put a few bucks back into my 'retirement' account, but I think all I did was add a guitar. So addicted (sigh). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Yep...promising, to say the least. I did have it in the back of my mind to keep my herd rotating and put a few bucks back into my 'retirement' account, but I think all I did was add a guitar. So addicted (sigh). Take the opportunities as they come, JZ! Those guitars are rare as hen's teeth here. Matter of fact, the pawn shop visit of recent showed a whole lot of cheapie guitars I had never heard of. But my head got turned to the J200, a Bird and a OM28 and some others, but these days if you hit skid row down on your luck, you could probably stump up for a nice playable guitar, eg their Samick dread for $130...... BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I did have it in the back of my mind to keep my herd rotating and put a few bucks back into my 'retirement' account, but I think all I did was add a guitar. So addicted (sigh). My game plan was essentially to buy everything I've ever seriously wanted prior to retirement, build up a "guitar equity" for trading (if something totally irresistible comes along), and then go on the wagon. Almost a year into retirement, it has truly worked out well as everything gets rotated in, played, tweaked for fun, and played some more. Moral of the story: Buy guilt-free now while you're working, and then sit back & enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Yeah Bobouz. Guess I'm in that universe too. All the hangers are holding a nice ol' geetar. What a joy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I'm buying it with the knowledge I might snag a great player after I put a little work into it. I only own rehabbed guitars, when it comes down to it. Sounds like you got that great player with just a little work put into it. Well done! For the most part, I only buy used guitars, but I'm not the fix-it guy you are, so I like 'em in excellent condition. And man, the two Guilds I've got -- outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Looks nice naked, but it'll need more tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Looks nice naked, but it'll need more tweaks. SWEET !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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