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#1 User is offline   BDuke 

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:49 AM

Hey good people, I'm looking to purchase an epi casino or casino coupe or maybe a sheraton 2. Any advice, opinions, or just comments on your experiences with these guitars will be appreciated
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:08 AM

View PostBDuke, on 22 January 2018 - 07:49 AM, said:

Hey good people, I'm looking to purchase an epi casino or casino coupe or maybe a sheraton 2. Any advice, opinions, or just comments on your experiences with these guitars will be appreciated
thanks BDuke


The Casino and the Sheraton are two very different animals. One a genuine hollowbody guitar with P90s; the other a semi-hollowbody with a central piece of wood into which two humbuckers are mounted.

You'll hear lots of contrasting opinions on this topic. To my mind, if versatility is important (if you only want to own one of these, or only one guitar), I'd always go with the Sheraton. Enough of a semi to get beautiful jazz and blues tones, close enough to a solidbody if you want it to sound like a Les Paul... But that's just my opinion.

Honestly, though, you'll have to play them both to make your mind up properly.

Re: the coupe. Unless you're a smaller person, or have a reason for wanting the smaller guitar (portability?), I'd go with the regular full-size Casino, if it turns out that a Casino is the guitar you want.
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:51 AM

View PostLord Summerisle, on 22 January 2018 - 08:08 AM, said:

The Casino and the Sheraton are two very different animals. One a genuine hollowbody guitar with P90s; the other a semi-hollowbody with a central piece of wood into which two humbuckers are mounted.

You'll hear lots of contrasting opinions on this topic. To my mind, if versatility is important (if you only want to own one of these, or only one guitar), I'd always go with the Sheraton. Enough of a semi to get beautiful jazz and blues tones, close enough to a solidbody if you want it to sound like a Les Paul... But that's just my opinion.

Honestly, though, you'll have to play them both to make your mind up properly.

Re: the coupe. Unless you're a smaller person, or have a reason for wanting the smaller guitar (portability?), I'd go with the regular full-size Casino, if it turns out that a Casino is the guitar you want.



Thanks I own a LP. I"m looking for something different. Casino or Sheraton? hmmmmm
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 09:06 AM

View PostBDuke, on 22 January 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:

Thanks I own a LP. I"m looking for something different. Casino or Sheraton? hmmmmm


If you already own a Les Paul, then I'd be inclined towards a Casino. The differences in tone between a Les Paul and a 335 (or Sheraton) are subtle. The Casino is an entirely different beast.

With Casinos, don't make the mistake (as some people do) of just thinking of them as Beatles-esque. Other than hi-gain stuff (being hollow they feed back like hell), they are fairly versatile. You can get some lovely blues tones out of them.

Besides, the classic Beatles sound requires Rickenbackers, not Casinos. [rolleyes]
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 09:28 AM

[quote name='Lord Summerisle' timestamp='1516633566' post='1911513']
If you already own a Les Paul, then I'd be inclined towards a Casino. The differences in tone between a Les Paul and a 335 (or Sheraton) are subtle. The Casino is an entirely different beast.

With Casinos, don't make the mistake (as some people do) of just thinking of them as Beatles-esque. Other than hi-gain stuff (being hollow they feed back like hell), they are fairly versatile. You can get some lovely blues tones out of them.

Besides, the classic Beatles sound requires Rickenbackers, not Casinos. [rolleyes]
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How bad is the feedback? i would be running it through a Roland Stage Blues Cube. I"M mostly a rhythm player but I want it to plays blues on as well.
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 10:06 AM

Been a while since I had a Casino. I had one around 2008/9 I used to play through a Fender Blues Jr. Feedback was manageable. My sense is that things only get really rowdy if you plug them into a high gain amp. But then, they're scarcely a "metal" guitar...
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 11:14 AM

if you're drummer is a heavy hitter, then you're average stage volume could be enough to get you into feed back with the casino

I have a Sherry pro II our guy is pretty heavy hitter... We're not overly loud, but we're run at a good clip.. my Sherry doesn't really feedback.

have to consider the 60 cycle hum too w/P90s, which can be hard to squash if using a lot of gain.

P90s can be great and a PITA all at the same time. They have their own voice for sure.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 11:46 AM

View Postkidblast, on 22 January 2018 - 11:14 AM, said:

if you're drummer is a heavy hitter, then you're average stage volume could be enough to get you into feed back with the casino

I have a Sherry pro II our guy is pretty heavy hitter... We're not overly loud, but we're run at a good clip.. my Sherry doesn't really feedback.

have to consider the 60 cycle hum too w/P90s, which can be hard to squash if using a lot of gain.

P90s can be great and a PITA all at the same time. They have their own voice for sure.


I agree. I'm always enthusiastic about P-90's until I actually have to use P-90's, then I'm not. Got rid of my last P-90'd guitar about ten years ago, don't miss it. I wish I had my P-100'd Special from about 1998.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 12:56 PM

View Postkidblast, on 22 January 2018 - 11:14 AM, said:

if you're drummer is a heavy hitter, then you're average stage volume could be enough to get you into feed back with the casino

I have a Sherry pro II our guy is pretty heavy hitter... We're not overly loud, but we're run at a good clip.. my Sherry doesn't really feedback.

have to consider the 60 cycle hum too w/P90s, which can be hard to squash if using a lot of gain.

P90s can be great and a PITA all at the same time. They have their own voice for sure.


What is the pickup configuration on a factory Sheraton 2
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 01:09 PM

View PostBDuke, on 22 January 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

What is the pickup configuration on a factory Sheraton 2


Two full-size humbuckers. There are other Sheraton variations out there with two mini-humbuckers.
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:21 AM

View PostBDuke, on 22 January 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

What is the pickup configuration on a factory Sheraton 2



the Shearton Pro II comes with Pro Buckers, & Push/Pull pots (Volume) for the coil splits.

I also have a few LPs and the Pro Buckers are pretty close in output to my LPs. They are real good sounding pickups. when compared with pickups from previous/earlier Sheraton's, (I had a late 90s Sheraton which I sold in probably 2000) the Pro Buckers are far and away better pickups.
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:41 AM

Post surgically I bought a Casino Coupe because of weight restrictions I was on. It served its purpose very well. I could sit on the edge of my bed and I had a small practice amp on the night stand. And I could drive my wife crazy with my practicing. And I really got to like the P-90's sound.

After the two months of the weight restrictions I went back to playing my other guitars. All due respect to the little Casino, I just had other guitars I chose to pick up. This was over a year ago. Then, at some point, I decided to pick up the Casino again. I have no idea why. Just on a fluke and because it sat there looking at me seemingly lonely. I was playing standing and doing that the guitar felt horribly neck heavy. So much so I haven't played it again. Maybe if I played it more I would learn how to compensate. (I was going to sell it. But I have a granddaughter, 10 years old, that just decided she wants to play guitar. I bought her a parlor acoustic to learn. If she continues to show interest and wants to try electric this would be perfect size for her to try. So I'm keeping it possibly for that.)

Maybe it was me. If you're considering the Coupe I encourage you to try it in a store and see if you experience the neck diving.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 02:27 PM

hey matonanjin

I don't know if this helps, but what sort of strap are you using?

Some guitars just work better with a suede or brushed leather strap. The "seat-belt" style straps sometimes are just not good straps for light guitars

(SGs are notorious for this, but the problem is solved with a better strap.)

just a bit of food for thought-----
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:37 PM

kidblast, that is food for thought and I appreciate your taking the time to suggest that. I don't know what strap I had on it. I don't have any strap on it now. But I'm not going to play it anymore. I'm either going to sell it or just stick it in a corner in case my granddaughter continues her interest in playing guitar and wants to try electric.
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Posted 24 January 2018 - 05:43 AM

ya never know,, some day you may pick it up again and think you'll keep it.

it's a sickness we all share,, there is no cure.... :)
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Posted 24 January 2018 - 01:14 PM

View Postkidblast, on 24 January 2018 - 05:43 AM, said:


it's a sickness we all share,, there is no cure.... :)

Well, that I can not argue with!!!!! [unsure] :rolleyes:
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Posted 25 January 2018 - 02:14 PM

View PostBDuke, on 22 January 2018 - 07:49 AM, said:

Hey good people, I'm looking to purchase an epi casino or casino coupe or maybe a sheraton 2. Any advice, opinions, or just comments on your experiences with these guitars will be appreciated
thanks BDuke

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This is very odd. I was going to post a message identical to yours. That kinda freaks me out just a bit. Are you looking for a blues machine like me also? I have personally decided on either a Casino (full size) or a Blueshawk. I read a review of the blueshawk and the guy said it was the best blues guitar he had ever played. I am also looking at the Wildkat Studio, very similar to the Casino in a lot of ways and a lot cheaper.

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 06:09 AM

View PostSunfist, on 25 January 2018 - 02:14 PM, said:

This is very odd. I was going to post a message identical to yours. That kinda freaks me out just a bit. Are you looking for a blues machine like me also? I have personally decided on either a Casino (full size) or a Blueshawk. I read a review of the blueshawk and the guy said it was the best blues guitar he had ever played. I am also looking at the Wildkat Studio, very similar to the Casino in a lot of ways and a lot cheaper.


The Wildcat is not similar to the Casino in any way, the Casino is a true hollow body, The Wildcat is milled from a sold block of wood, not really a hollow body at all.

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 05:06 PM

For me, the Casino is the best guitar Epiphone makes. I own one, along with a Sheraton and a Sorrento.If I could only keep two guitars, the Casino would be one of those two.
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Posted 28 January 2018 - 05:13 PM

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Two full-size humbuckers. There are other Sheraton variations out there with two mini-humbuckers.

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