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Lemme throw in another wrench. 🥴 I'd say the only other unique tone in that time period was Randy California's. Randy too, was pretty unique for his time. Whitefang

So you're saying that someone at Martin should have their head examined? Whitefang

I'd say those who know better would say Chuck was known more for his guitar WORK than what he played it on. And mostly those who grew up earlier than the 70's were more familiar with his 350-T. But I always thought those Gibson "stereos" were cool axes. My buddy's guitar teacher bought one in '67. Another buddy of mine had one in the '70's. Both were tobacco burst. But what bothers me is.....why it took until 2021 and four years after his death for Gibson to get around to putting out a Chuck Berry sig? And they can do away with the cap. Whitefang

I thought Sarge would be wishing for this....... 1959 Martin 00-18E Whitefang

"Morning Dew"--Take your pick Whitefang

Thanks for that info. But I'd have to now wonder which particular woman's ecstasy moan he refers to. I'm not nor ever have been a "Don Juan", but I doubt EVERY woman sounds the same in that situation. And as he wasn't with Pattie back then it needs more research, eh? Whitefang

But today(and right now) in the Detroit area it's a blistering 34 degrees! Above freezing means a good portion of the snow around here will melt. We didn't get but 3-4" anyway. But I really feel for those folks in Buffalo. I saw a newscaster in Buffalo standing next to a car(he claimed) and the only thing showing was a side view mirror. Sticking out of the side of a huge pile of snow. And just the snow that fell. Not snow that was plowed from the road and over the car. Whitefang

Are you referring to those "barbarians" who eschew the use of that needless and pretentious superfluous "u"? Like in "colour", "Harbour" "honour" etc.? Whitefang

Too bad you couldn't think of trying to learn slide back then. But plenty of us non overindulged young 'uns went through those tribulations until we got to where we needed. Often our first guitars were not much better than our first cars. 🥴 Whitefang

I'd say a pioneer of using multiple effects, but usually probably in the studio as the three times I saw him in concert(from '68 to late '69) there were NO pedals (as really back then the pedals available were a fuzz box and a cry baby) cluttering up the stage at his feet. Whitefang

"Come Dancing"--The Kinks Whitefang

If that's true then help was offered. The OP did claim, "It's got to be over 100 years old....." But if the first Gibson guitars were built in 1902, his might be this; Or this............................... But yes, we will need his pic to be certain. And incidentally, there was no model offered for the top photo, and the bottom one is a 1902 L-3. Whitefang

Does your entire family pronounce it differently for those in the family who don't seem to know how to SPELL mayonnaise? OK. How about some who can't pronounce toilet. And say instead, "tawlet"? Kids mispronouncing words can be amusing. My kids never mispronounced "ketchup". But my younger did say "M A G I J" instead of "magic". And a nephew used to say "padetti" instead of "spaghetti". I still tease him about that. Whitefang

Really, you can't get ANY clap or other venereal disease without "wood". At least to make it worthwhile catching it. Actually, it turns out I WAS familiar with the tone. Just until now never heard it called that. And still no explanation for the name. And I did mention me and all my guitar playing compatriots liked Clapton's tone with Cream too. Just passing on what I've heard and read over the years. And it did sort of make sense to me as back in times when stomp boxes and pedals weren't an industry in itself the reason for Jimi's Strat's tone being different from other guitarists playing Strats needed some kind of explanation. And when seeing him live with nothing on the stage in front of him but the mic stand and his guitar sounding so different in tone from the opening band's guitarist also playing a Strat through a Marshall stack, well, gotta wonder. Whitefang

"Dance Little Sister"--Rolling stones Whitefang

But too....... "Lead us not into temptation." Whitefang

Just going by the numbers you provided my guess would be your Grandfather was born some time in the 1890's and joined the navy in about 1910 or so. You also never said(if you knew) just how old the guitar was when he bought it used. A couple years? 10-15 years or older? But then again, my Grandfather died in 1981 at age 84. which would make him born in 1897. Which then could mean your Grandfather was born in the 1880's. Some precise information would be needed(along with pics) for us to be able to attempt to pinpoint the age and possible model. And if you could see my checkbook you'd realize you can't always rely on my math. Whitefang

I guess my question now would be.... WHY is it called a "woman" tone? It doesn't really sound all that feminine. Several of us could tell it was a fairly unique tone compared to what most other guitarists were using back then. Both Clapton's and Jimi's tones, though far different from each other's, were unique and probably for different reasons. I was always told(by some who I realized knew more about this sort of thing) that Hendrix achieved his tone unwittingly, by having his Strat's body turned upside down. And that for left-handed play he had the 1st string over the pick-ups where the 6th would ordinarily be and on and on and so forth with all the remaining strings. And that the pick-ups were attuned to each string in the proper order for right-handed play. And to think they acquired all this without the need to clutter the stage with a few dozen stomp boxes and crap. And still managing to sound good without monitors or earpods. Whitefang

If you're on a blood thinner(like me) the cold will seem much colder. I'm not sure about the older/colder thing, but over the years I noticed a lot of oldsters bundling up in warm weather, but too, my brother in law Stan is 86, and is no colder in this weather than the much younger men in the family. A Bible reading dog? Ha! Next time he does that try to get a picture of it and see if you can post it. And BTW..... What section of the Bible did he have it opened to? I tried sending that question in a PM, but it seems you can't receive messages. Whitefang

That slow moving time at work depended on a few factors. The slower the job was, the slower the clock moved. But then too, the busier(or frantic) the job was the longer quitting time took to arrive. The gem was the kind of job where the pace was just right to where the clock moved at an ideal pace. As you know, Mine was a medical retirement. I never got the chance to do handsprings out the factory door Either actual or figuratively. I was on sick leave four years before officially retired. No "walk around" day. The tradition at most GM plants was that on your last day before retirement you can dress up in your Sunday best and walk around the plant saying your good-byes. I just never wanted to wind up like some of those guys I knew who kicked off less than a year after retiring. So far so good. Whitefang

"Empty Arms"--Ivory Joe Hunter Whitefang

What bothered me about all that was the online betting sites and phone "apps" started springing up when unemployment was higher and most people were struggling to keep above water. And their advertising made it sound that there's really not much danger of ever losing. And sadly, desperate people will by that hook, line and sinker. Whitefang

Never heard of those, but used to occasionally pick up a copy of GUITAR PLAYER and GUITAR WORLD before the places i'd get them quit carrying them. Whitefang

We weren't talking "V" neck sweaters? Whitefang

Glad to hear from ya Butch. Sent Christmas greetings to you through Rob. Retired 10 years(almost) now? Wow. By the time you hit 10 years I'd have been retired 23 years. And you know what? That 23 years went by much faster than the first 23 years of working. Happy holidays to you and Deb and the family, and a safe New Years. Sure enough a bad time for the heat to quit. And the sun is out? Wouldn't mind that 'round here. Was 4 degrees here just before I came on line, and it's still 50-50 that my car will start so I can go to my nephew's tonight. Merry Christmas to you and yours too. Whitefang