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Hey everyone. I bought a les paul with p90s that someone swapped the pups in for cheap ones and want to get some proper p90s for it. Should I just stick with the classic gibsons or spend a bit more on a set or wolfetones or after market? I basically want nice fat p90 vintage goodness. Thanks.

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Thankyou.

 

Go stock? Yes. Well...I've thought about changing mine, but like the sound I already have so much. Low output or not.

 

Replacements can get expensive and also [blush] mine have gold polepieces.

 

There is a humbucking version (P100) but I haven't heard one of those yet. To me P90s are great clean, and with a bit of bluesy overdrive they really jump....

 

These days I have come round to thinking, leave guitars stock if possible.

 

Having said that....yours - I'd keep it all black, add black knobs, switch tip and a black scratchplate (maybe with a white laminate to echo the binding)..... [smile]

 

Also have a guitar with P94s (P90 in hb housing), significantly higher output.

 

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I don't know much about pickup replacements. It was all DiMarzio back when I first started playing, or at least that's all I heard about. My Tribute with P90's has stock pickups and they sound great. Good clean and blues sound, not too noisy and sound fantastic with volume and tone turned down a notch or two. I can't speak about alternate replacements but the Gibson ones sound fantastic in mine.

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I've heard nothing but praise for wolftones, I've got a set of Gibson P90s in an SG Classic, a buddy has some Duncan P90s, in one of his, they both sound good. Hard to say which one I'd choose given that comparison, probably lean towards Gibson. Lollars are good too. so many choices... so little time.

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I don't (yet) have a Gibson with P90s, but I am a fan of P90s and feel Gibson's are among the cream of the crop. They really do capture that vintage sound better than some of the boutique brands IMO. I actually used Gibson P90s to upgrade a Chinese guitar and can't think of any good reason someone would do the other way around like they did with yours. I hate to think someone wanted to make money selling the guitar (with replacements) and then selling the pickups separately, but that may be the case.

 

As a side note, I've been looking hard at that 2017 LP Tribute special edition with the P90s at Zzounds/AMS. I was hoping for a Black Friday discount but so far they are telling me there won't be one :(

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I don't (yet) have a Gibson with P90s, but I am a fan of P90s and feel Gibson's are among the cream of the crop. They really do capture that vintage sound better than some of the boutique brands IMO. I actually used Gibson P90s to upgrade a Chinese guitar and can't think of any good reason someone would do the other way around like they did with yours. I hate to think someone wanted to make money selling the guitar (with replacements) and then selling the pickups separately, but that may be the case.

 

As a side note, I've been looking hard at that 2017 LP Tribute special edition with the P90s at Zzounds/AMS. I was hoping for a Black Friday discount but so far they are telling me there won't be one :(

 

I bought my Goldtop Tribute with P90's from AMS this year and I love that guitar. The weight and sustain is awesome. The sound of the P90's really wasn't what I expected. They're hotter than a Fender single coil but not as hot as my Standard. Great blues and clean tones out of that guitar. It's not great for heavy gain/metal but it will do about everything else. I don't think AMS or ZZsounds have the Goldtop with P90's any more in the Tribute line but it looks like they still have the honeyburst.

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Lots of things have curves, roads, bowls, couches. Nobody calls them “she”.

 

But a guitar?

 

I don’t get it.

 

Don't know. Some folk name their guitars. Some call 'em she.

 

I don't really call mine anything. They never come to me when I call them.

 

Mostly, mine are just descriptive. Black V, White V, Brown V, Burst Les Paul, Goldtop Les Paul, Strat, classical. Then again, I don't have 30 guitars. But, if someone wants to call their guitars she or by name, it's cool with me. BB King had Lucille and who am I to argue with him? :)

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Don't know. Some folk name their guitars. Some call 'em she.

 

I don't really call mine anything. They never come to me when I call them.

 

Mostly, mine are just descriptive. Black V, White V, Brown V, Burst Les Paul, Goldtop Les Paul, Strat, classical. Then again, I don't have 30 guitars. But, if someone wants to call their guitars she or by name, it's cool with me. BB King had Lucille and who am I to argue with him? :)

 

Yeah I just don’t understand it, more power to them though. Ive never named a car or guitar or any inanimate object.

 

I didn’t even bother naming my cat, he’s the only one I have and he sure as hell isnt going to answer if I call him so not much point.

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Yeah I just don’t understand it, more power to them though. Ive never named a car or guitar or any inanimate object.

 

I didn’t even bother naming my cat, he’s the only one I have and he sure as hell isnt going to answer if I call him so not much point.

 

My cat's name is Fartknocker. She actually does come over if you call her. My guitars don't, no matter what I call them. I have to go pick them up! But, the cat does! Of course she also answers to just about anything. All you have to do is look at her and she look at you and the next thing you know, she's in your lap or next to you. My friend used to joke that he called his dog "Stay" so he'd say "C'mere Stay!" and confuse the hell out of it.

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Fwiw, my experience w/P-90s has shown them (to my ears anyhow, or what's left of them) to be much more similar from inexpensive to somewhat more expensive, than is the case with humbuckers. My experience is that in large part, a P90 is a P90 is a P90. Whereas if you spend some dosh to upgrade a humbucker, you're more likely to hear a bigger difference.

 

Here are the P90s I've had in the guitars I've owned; for all of these, I didn't feel the need to upgrade any of them. In (very) rough order of price/cost from low to high: stock Epiphone Chinese soapbar in a boltneck "Junior," Korean ceramic magnet Agile stock soapbar pickups (in a Valkyrie SG), stock Epiphone Korean LP Special soapbars, stock Korean Epiphone dogear bridge in a Casino, GFS classic soapbars in a partscaster Strat, GFS Dream 90 (HB-sized) dropped into a Gibson Melody Maker, Gibson stock soapbars in two Les Paul Specials (one singlecut, one doublecut), Seymour Duncan Antiquity dogear dropped into a setneck Epiphone LP Junior, Seymour Duncan-made stock Hamer soapbars in a Hamer (USA) Special doublecut, Rio Grande neck soapbar dropped into an Epi Casino.

 

I've also had a couple Gibson LP Specials with P100 stacked humbuckers in soapbar housings. They're not terrible but don't really sound like P90s.

 

Here are my current P90 guitars (all mentioned in the list of above, along with other guitars since sold):

 

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Happy hunting!

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P-90's most popular sound is mostly from the 50's generation. The tone is highly effected by the number of windings on the bobbin. I just recently watched a documentary where they were interviewing some of the women doing the windings in the 50's. They said they just kept winding until they filled up the bobbin.. :) hmmmm.

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Fwiw, my experience w/P-90s has shown them (to my ears anyhow, or what's left of them) to be much more similar from inexpensive to somewhat more expensive, than is the case with humbuckers. My experience is that in large part, a P90 is a P90 is a P90. Whereas if you spend some dosh to upgrade a humbucker, you're more likely to hear a bigger difference.

 

Here are the P90s I've had in the guitars I've owned; for all of these, I didn't feel the need to upgrade any of them. In (very) rough order of price/cost from low to high: stock Epiphone Chinese soapbar in a boltneck "Junior," Korean ceramic magnet Agile stock soapbar pickups (in a Valkyrie SG), stock Epiphone Korean LP Special soapbars, stock Korean Epiphone dogear bridge in a Casino, GFS classic soapbars in a partscaster Strat, GFS Dream 90 (HB-sized) dropped into a Gibson Melody Maker, Gibson stock soapbars in two Les Paul Specials (one singlecut, one doublecut), Seymour Duncan Antiquity dogear dropped into a setneck Epiphone LP Junior, Seymour Duncan-made stock Hamer soapbars in a Hamer (USA) Special doublecut, Rio Grande neck soapbar dropped into an Epi Casino.

 

I've also had a couple Gibson LP Specials with P100 stacked humbuckers in soapbar housings. They're not terrible but don't really sound like P90s.

 

Here are my current P90 guitars (all mentioned in the list of above, along with other guitars since sold):

 

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Happy hunting!

 

Nice!

 

I have a Casino. Why did you put a Rio Grand in your blond Casino neck? I want to replace my chrome covers with black plastic covers like yours.

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