Whitefang Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Here's that thread OP I mentioned; I don’t mean “Classic” rock, which is just a nice way of saying “oldies”. I’m referring to “classical” rock----rock music that uses what we might consider “classical” instrumentations and arrangements, or borrow themes and passages of actual classical works. This all started thus; I’ve long been in the habit of buying old vinyl LPs of classical music, since I can’t sit and listen 24/7 to the classical music station, which we haven’t had here in Detroit since the late 1990’s, and even now, we only have a station that plays classical music for 12 hours a day, the other 12 taken up with jazz. Anyway, I’d buy these albums of music by composers whose other works I was familiar with was favorable to me, and others out of curiosity of their compositions. And, if I liked them, I’d hunt down a newer recording on CD, or a CD reissue of the album I bought. So, one night, I’m listening to an album I bought that afternoon at a thrift shop, and I heard a familiar “riff”. Thinking hard, it hit me! I was listening to a work by Janacek called, “Sinfionetta”, which, it turned out, was used by KEITH EMERSON of ELP for a song called “Knife-Edge”. Now, on the old VINYL LP of mine, it said nothing about adapting it from Janacek’s work, but it gives the acknowledgement on the CD reissue. And also gives credit to adapting the lead-off song, “The Barbarian” from Bela Bartok’s “Allegro Barbaro”. We all know ELP has done a lot of this sort of thing….Aaron Copeland’s “Hoedown”, and “Fanfare For The Common Man”, and on BRAIN SALAD SURGERY, Emerson adapted the fourth movement of GINESTERA’S 1st piano concerto into a piece called “TOCCATA” (I’ve YET to find a “straight” recording of that concerto ANYwhere!) We also know ELO has used classical elements heavily for their LP EDORADO. And ELP went a step further by once adapting nearly ALL of Modest Mussorgsky’s “Pictures At An Exhibition” . Plus a piece of Tchaikovsky’s “Nutcracker” for the short but rollicking, “Nut Rocker”. Are there any others I might have missed? Whitefang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Whitefang said: Here's that thread OP I mentioned; I don’t mean “Classic” rock, which is just a nice way of saying “oldies”. I’m referring to “classical” rock----rock music that uses what we might consider “classical” instrumentations and arrangements, or borrow themes and passages of actual classical works. This all started thus; I’ve long been in the habit of buying old vinyl LPs of classical music, since I can’t sit and listen 24/7 to the classical music station, which we haven’t had here in Detroit since the late 1990’s, and even now, we only have a station that plays classical music for 12 hours a day, the other 12 taken up with jazz. Anyway, I’d buy these albums of music by composers whose other works I was familiar with was favorable to me, and others out of curiosity of their compositions. And, if I liked them, I’d hunt down a newer recording on CD, or a CD reissue of the album I bought. So, one night, I’m listening to an album I bought that afternoon at a thrift shop, and I heard a familiar “riff”. Thinking hard, it hit me! I was listening to a work by Janacek called, “Sinfionetta”, which, it turned out, was used by KEITH EMERSON of ELP for a song called “Knife-Edge”. Now, on the old VINYL LP of mine, it said nothing about adapting it from Janacek’s work, but it gives the acknowledgement on the CD reissue. And also gives credit to adapting the lead-off song, “The Barbarian” from Bela Bartok’s “Allegro Barbaro”. We all know ELP has done a lot of this sort of thing….Aaron Copeland’s “Hoedown”, and “Fanfare For The Common Man”, and on BRAIN SALAD SURGERY, Emerson adapted the fourth movement of GINESTERA’S 1st piano concerto into a piece called “TOCCATA” (I’ve YET to find a “straight” recording of that concerto ANYwhere!) We also know ELO has used classical elements heavily for their LP EDORADO. And ELP went a step further by once adapting nearly ALL of Modest Mussorgsky’s “Pictures At An Exhibition” . Plus a piece of Tchaikovsky’s “Nutcracker” for the short but rollicking, “Nut Rocker”. Are there any others I might have missed? Whitefang Jethro Tull - Bouree was written by Bach, I think. The Nice did Brandenburger. Zappa did Stravinsky and Ravel live back in the day when he toured. Edited February 14, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I believe Randy Roads used some Cuban classical guitarist piece for Diary Of A Madman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Blackmore did some work with the final movement of Beethoven's 9th symphony's which later became "Joyful" which is hymn where the words were taken a Van Dyke poem "The Hymn of Joy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Whitefang said: ...Are there any others I might have missed? Yes. Yes. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, rct said: Yes. Yes. rct Damn for got about them. I need to listen to CTTE. Haven't heard it in while, or should I do Relayer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Close To The Edge, once a month whether you need to or not. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, rct said: Close To The Edge, once a month whether you need to or not. rct Oh I always need it. That is one of my top 5 fav albums of all time. I know it note for not. It sounds amazing in 5.1 surround sound. I think I own 7 or 8 different copies of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Dave Edmunds is the guitarist on this Khachaturian piece which was a UK hit in 1968. The unedited version is 11 minutes long but the edited one (here) is better. It's hard to convey how completely amazing this sounded to 14-year old me in '68. I can still remember DJ John Peel playing it twice on his radio show - I was listening in my bedroom. Another one of the tracks that made me (and many, many others) want to play guitar - "I wish I could do that!!" Edited February 14, 2022 by jdgm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mihcmac Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I think this arrangement would be considered a classical style.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Then there was always this... Not quite the same thing but an interesting experiment I guess.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I think Smooth would qualify because it's based on a Phrygian scale with a #3rd like Malaguena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Eric Carmen's 1975 hit All By Myself, which borrowed heavily from the second movement (Adagio sostenuto) of Sergei Rachmaninoff's circa 1900–1901 Piano Concerto No. 2 in C minor, Opus 18. The tasty guitar solo was performed by studio guitarist Hugh McCracken. The song was later covered by Celine Dion. Without the tasty guitar solo. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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