saturn Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Jesus! They are searching for 7 people. I live less than 10 minutes from the Key Bridge and cross it several times a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 (edited) I took this photo of the Key Bridge on March 10 from Ft Smallwood Park. The National Anthem was written at about that spot. Edited March 26 by saturn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 That is terrifying!! 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 The bridge is part of I-695 Beltway which circles Baltimore. I could get on at Exit 1, cross the Key Bridge and if I didn't get off, be back where I started in 1-2 hours depending on traffic. My gig commutes are gonna get worse, I know that. For about all my band gigs, I would either go 695 East or West. East will no longer be an option for a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 Now I'm waiting for the conspiracy theories to start. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 25 minutes ago, saturn said: Now I'm waiting for the conspiracy theories to start. 🙄 Here is mine. You said a ship hit it. I'll take your word on that. But it could be aliens? Edited March 26 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, saturn said: Now I'm waiting for the conspiracy theories to start. 🙄 saturn, They already have. Check out the other thread here about the bridge collapse. RBSinTo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 One of my neighbors works at the habor, I'll have to ask him what's he doing to those ships, isn't he supposed to be guiding them or something? News reports indicate the ship lost power before the collision, they sent out a call to close the bridge, dropped the anchor but it was too late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepdog1969 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (I posted this on a similar thread on the forum a few min. ago) I have heard multiple people, including the President, talking about using an Emergency fund (tax dollars), and what ever other required public funds (tax dollars) to replace the bridge and re-open the shipping lanes. WAIT A MINUTE! Based on the video showing the ships lights going off, and then on, and then off again, this was a mechanical failure of the ship's propulsion system/power plant. Weather was calm, (no wind), and visibility was clear. The pilot was a local "Harbor Master" mandated by law to pilot these ships in and out of this harbor. If this was a issue with the ship, don't they have insurance??? If my brakes fail, and my car slams into something, I am at fault and my State mandated automobile insurance covers most if not all of the damage I caused, (save for my deductible.). Despite the ship being registered in Singapore, it was Chartered by Maersk, the second largest shipping company on the planet, just behind MSC. Maersk is the maritime division of Denmark's A.P. Moeller-Maersk A/S, a global leader in container shipping and port management. A.P Moller-Maersk annual net income for 2022 was $29.198 BILLION. A.P Moller-Maersk net income for the twelve months ending September 30, 2023 was $9.208 Billion. Ultimately, Maersk owes the US/Maryland THE ENTIRE COST OF REPLACING THE BRIDGE, THE "ECONOMIC LOSSES" ASSOCIATED WITH THIS EVENT, THE CLEAN-UP COSTS, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE COSTS, AND MAERSK IS LIABLE FOR THE LOSS OF LIFE AND INJURIES THIS EVENT CAUSED!!! Maersk (and/or their insurer) can sue the ships owner separately, if they choose. US TAX PAYERS SHOULD NOT BE LIABLE FOR ONE PENNY OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ACCIDENT. If I have to carry State mandated minimum levels of auto liability insurance to drive my car(s), Maersk and other shippers need to as well, (especially after seeing how a single ship wreck can result in billions of dollars in costs!) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 The government will probably get the project going and then apply the insurance payment towards the costs. If it's anything like the bridge repairs in PA, this is going to take years to complete. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) Beyond the Ships malfunction, Was it caused by the height of the ship? Edited March 27 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 They really packed that one, didn't they? It was going to Sri Lanka, it reminds me of those photos from India where a whole family is crammed onto a motorcycle. That harbor is an interesting place, I spent an afternoon there shipping a motorcycle to Norway. Mountains of John Deere equipment waiting to be exported, sports cars, all sorts of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, SteveFord said: They really packed that one, didn't they? It was going to Sri Lanka, it reminds me of those photos from India where a whole family is crammed onto a motorcycle. That harbor is an interesting place, I spent an afternoon there shipping a motorcycle to Norway. Mountains of John Deere equipment waiting to be exported, sports cars, all sorts of stuff. When I was in P I, I remember seeing a motorcycle with at least five people on it and probably a large stack of rice too. Edited March 27 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 On 3/27/2024 at 8:52 AM, SteveFord said: The government will probably get the project going and then apply the insurance payment towards the costs. If it's anything like the bridge repairs in PA, this is going to take years to complete. This. If we wait for the insurance claims to be worked out, it will sit there for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) It is being reported that the "race baters" are now starting to question Francis Scott Keys legacy as they are bringing up his families ownership of slaves as well as remarks he's made about the inferiority of blacks. It sure didn't take long. How unfortunate that people can't let things be. It wasn't problematic when they originally built the bridge. Now, it's an issue. Edited March 28 by Californiaman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Californiaman said: It is being reported that the "race baters" are now starting to question Francis Scott Keys legacy as they are bringing up his families ownership of slaves as well as remarks he's made about the inferiority of blacks. It sure didn't take long. How unfortunate that people can't let things be. It wasn't problematic when they originally built the bridge. Now, it's an issue. So the US was the only country to ever have slavery? Not by a long shot. I wonder what the Egyptians who built the pyramids for the Pharaoh were paid? Oh, that’s right they were slaves they got nothing. . Edited March 28 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: So the US was the only country to ever have slavery? Not by a long shot. I wonder what the Egyptians who built the pyramids for the Pharaoh were paid? Oh, that’s right they were slaves they got nothing. . Actually the Egyptian pyramids were built by a skilled working class and they were compensated. The race bating I hear is coming from other circles trying to tie the accident to DEI . Edited March 28 by saturn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 45 minutes ago, saturn said: Actually the Egyptian pyramids were built by a skilled working class and they were compensated. The race bating I hear is coming from other circles trying to tie the accident to DEI . Nah. They were built by aliens. Illegal probably. From another galaxy. Flown in by the Pharo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) 48 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: Nah. They were built by aliens. Illegal probably. From another galaxy. Flown in by the Pharo. Instead of payment the aliens were told they can show up unannounced in theirs saucers and do rectal exams on any farmer that has a corn field. If the flying saucer is such a great design how come NASA is not using it? Edited March 29 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, saturn said: Actually the Egyptian pyramids were built by a skilled working class and they were compensated. The race bating I hear is coming from other circles trying to tie the accident to DEI . That is one of many theories. Nobody knows for sure who built them, or if, or how, they were compensated. Heck, they still are not sure WHY they were even built. Only theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) 46 minutes ago, brad1 said: That is one of many theories. Nobody knows for sure who built them, or if, or how, they were compensated. Heck, they still are not sure WHY they were even built. Only theories. So the Grateful Dead could go and play there during an eclipse. I have a live cd/dvd on what is called Rockin The Cradle : Egypt 1978. The album that got released was awful. I bought it for the dvd. The packaging is impressive. Donna was still in the band. Her husband was a damn fine keys player. Edited March 29 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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