Sgt. Pepper Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Great player. Ran to first base when he got walked. Sadly they will never let him into the hall, when betting is everywhere now. RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted Tuesday at 02:54 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:54 PM I agree……..When you see what so many of the professional players do on and off the field, what Rose did was minor in comparison. I don’t condone what he did. In fact, it was stupid. Today, lots of questionable behavior is acceptable by professional athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted Tuesday at 03:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:13 PM He really was Charlie Hustle. 😕 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx-ogre Posted Tuesday at 10:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:40 PM Sad news. RIP Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted Tuesday at 11:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:33 PM In the fall of 1980 my not-quite-yet Mrs and I lived at Heather Ridge Apartments in West Deptford NJ, about 4, 5 miles from the river maybe. Vet Stadium was another mile in on the other side of the river, little bit north too. When McGraw struck that last guy out that night we could hear Vet Stadium from there. Good times. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM RIP Charlie Hustle!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted Wednesday at 03:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:12 PM Like most sports - there's always been a bit of 'insider trading' going on. Like Shoeless Joe Jackson. The better the player, the worse the punishment and the flimsier the evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted Wednesday at 03:52 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:52 PM 38 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: Like most sports - there's always been a bit of 'insider trading' going on. Like Shoeless Joe Jackson. The better the player, the worse the punishment and the flimsier the evidence. The little guy always get the book thrown at them, while the big pigs just get a finger pointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted Wednesday at 07:45 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 07:45 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, duane v said: The little guy always get the book thrown at them, while the big pigs just get a finger pointing. MJ gambled and Charles Barkley too. So who are these big pigs your talking about? Mr. Rose wasn’t just some run of the mill player. He holds or held records and has played and was on WS winning teams. 3, I think. Cause the damn Reds started winning after my Oakland A’s won 3 series in a row. Edited Wednesday at 07:51 PM by Sgt. Pepper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted Wednesday at 09:51 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:51 PM Pete will be in the HOF some day, he just won't know about it. I saw him play quite a few tomes as a kid, my dad was a fan of the Big Red Machine. Great memories for me. RIP Charlie Hustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdinaryNimda Posted Thursday at 11:28 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:28 AM Pete Rose RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted Thursday at 01:11 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:11 PM (edited) Even Criminals who committed the most heinous of crimes sometimes get paroled. I always thought there was something fishy about what happened to him. Still do. He definitely should have been reinstated at an early age & allowed to finish his Career. Edited Thursday at 01:12 PM by Larsongs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted Thursday at 01:48 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:48 PM 32 minutes ago, Larsongs said: Even Criminals who committed the most heinous of crimes sometimes get paroled. I always thought there was something fishy about what happened to him. Still do. He definitely should have been reinstated at an early age & allowed to finish his Career. It's what we use to call (when I worked in healthcare) the fact that 99 "AttaBoys' get wiped out by 1 'AwShyte'. Negativity always seems to overpower good things. Of course, - if you push back on the negativity - YOU'RE the one who gets accused of being negative !!! Glad every day I'm out of the Rat Race ! Bet Pete is playing ball every day up there !! Sandlot with old friends ! That's what I'd like to do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted Thursday at 02:44 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:44 PM 54 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: It's what we use to call (when I worked in healthcare) the fact that 99 "AttaBoys' get wiped out by 1 'AwShyte'. Negativity always seems to overpower good things. Of course, - if you push back on the negativity - YOU'RE the one who gets accused of being negative !!! Glad every day I'm out of the Rat Race ! Bet Pete is playing ball every day up there !! Sandlot with old friends ! That's what I'd like to do ! “Sandlot with old friends! That’s what I’d like to do.” Me too. I hope I’m lucky enough to play with all those guys when get up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil OKeefe Posted Thursday at 06:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:22 PM IMO, in recent years, there have been worse (cheating) scandals in MLB than Charlie Hustle betting FOR his team to win (never against it), and those players all got a slap on the wrist. While I think he deserved to be severely sanctioned, he paid the price, and I think if the standards have changed since he was banned, then he should be held to those new standards. He was a truly great player. I saw him play against the Dodgers multiple times, and he always gave 110%. Now that he's gone, I think he should be allowed into Cooperstown. YMMV. RIP Pete Rose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted Thursday at 07:04 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 07:04 PM (edited) 42 minutes ago, Phil OKeefe said: IMO, in recent years, there have been worse (cheating) scandals in MLB than Charlie Hustle betting FOR his team to win (never against it), and those players all got a slap on the wrist. While I think he deserved to be severely sanctioned, he paid the price, and I think if the standards have changed since he was banned, then he should be held to those new standards. He was a truly great player. I saw him play against the Dodgers multiple times, and he always gave 110%. Now that he's gone, I think he should be allowed into Cooperstown. YMMV. RIP Pete Rose! None of that matters. They wanted to make an example out of him, and they did. I remember the All Star Game when they named the 100 best players and he was there, cause they had to let him. To me our national pastime is a slow boring game where over paid men scratch their crotch, chew gum and spit sunflower sees while waiting to take the feild, or while they are on the feild. Pete should have not shown up, other than to get under their skin. Edited Thursday at 07:05 PM by Sgt. Pepper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted Thursday at 09:55 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:55 PM Baseball is a great game. Though I think it's too bad Pete put himself in that position, I do think he should be permanently banned. Just because in today's world it's more acceptable to be a complete knucklehead, and not be held accountable, doesn't mean that individuals that were being rightfully held accountable for acts they committed in the past, should automatically have their punishments diminished. It irks the crap out of me that those that have been sentenced to death now get to spend their lives in jail on our dime. Because somebody felt that capital punishment was "inhumane." And felt the act of slaughtering another life and destroying families is somehow justifiable to a lesser punishment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted Friday at 02:23 AM Share Posted Friday at 02:23 AM R.I.P. Pete Rose all-time hit king. Great player. Ironic he died in Las Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted Friday at 01:32 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:32 PM 18 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: To me our national pastime is a slow boring game where over paid men scratch their crotch, chew gum and spit sunflower sees while waiting to take the feild, or while they are on the feild. There's that negativity I just wrote about. Each and every sport has devoted followers. Some like hockey because it's fast paced and physical, some like golf. Both require skill and finesse. Baseball has strategy and psychology as well. You're missing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted Friday at 01:48 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:48 PM 15 hours ago, duane v said: Baseball is a great game. Though I think it's too bad Pete put himself in that position, I do think he should be permanently banned. Just because in today's world it's more acceptable to be a complete knucklehead, and not be held accountable, doesn't mean that individuals that were being rightfully held accountable for acts they committed in the past, should automatically have their punishments diminished. It irks the crap out of me that those that have been sentenced to death now get to spend their lives in jail on our dime. Because somebody felt that capital punishment was "inhumane." And felt the act of slaughtering another life and destroying families is somehow justifiable to a lesser punishment. I agree. To over-rule a sentence imposed by a jury, and contemporary judges, lawyers, etc. based on laws that existed at the time - is to say they were ALL wrong and you know better. Simply because you're in the 'enlightened' 21st century and they were not. And, conveniently, they're not around to argue against your countermanding their authority. There's a difference between 'learning from history' and re-writing it to overlay your own values and opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted Friday at 02:24 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 02:24 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, fortyearspickn said: There's that negativity I just wrote about. Each and every sport has devoted followers. Some like hockey because it's fast paced and physical, some like golf. Both require skill and finesse. Baseball has strategy and psychology as well. You're missing out. A game that is so slow in recent years there needed to be a pitch clock introduced to speed the game up or else the pitcher would shake off the catchers signs for about 15 min while chewing his cudd. So do you think I have never been to a BB game, or seen one on TV. I know exactally what I am missing. So let me get this straight, because I have an opinion and can form a though in my own head without the aid of others and since you don't agree with it, its negative. That is BS and you know it, its because its me. Edited Friday at 03:12 PM by Sgt. Pepper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted Friday at 02:35 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 02:35 PM (edited) Wow I just read D's post. From BB to the Death Pentlay in 0 seconds flat. Laws change. Look at the speed limits on higway and freeways. If you got a speeding ticket when the speed limit was 55 mph and then it got changed to 70 mph, the state is not going to give everyone that got a ticket the money they paid for a fine back now are they? Cause when you got the ticket you were at that time breaking the law. Edited Friday at 02:38 PM by Sgt. Pepper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil OKeefe Posted Friday at 02:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:36 PM 16 hours ago, duane v said: It irks the crap out of me that those that have been sentenced to death now get to spend their lives in jail on our dime. Because somebody felt that capital punishment was "inhumane." And felt the act of slaughtering another life and destroying families is somehow justifiable to a lesser punishment. Duane, your comments and opinions about Pete were fine, but please leave the political comments out of the discussion. You're certainly entitled to your POV, but this isn't the proper forum to express political opinions like these. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted Friday at 03:30 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:30 PM PhiL In my view I don't feel that's political .... someone breaks the law you serve the penalty. To me that's a life rule. Now I did go off topic about the death penalty, so that I'll apologize for . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted Friday at 04:01 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:01 PM I get that it feels like a ‘life rule,’ and I respect that view. But when we talk about things like the death penalty or what punishments are just, those are shaped by the laws and policies that come from political decisions. So even if it feels more like a personal or moral stance, it’s still tied to the political landscape we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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