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My shoulders got damp when I walked from my vehicle to the office door. From this I deduce it is raining... It's still raining. I'm pretty sure of that.

 

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Man...this is a forumla for people getting banned..... upset..... hurt feelings.....everything but information.

 

I doubt anyone who's read 3 of my posts doesn't know my political views.

 

As Winston Churchill said:

“Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.”

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Man...this is a forumla for people getting banned..... upset..... hurt feelings.....everything but information.

 

I doubt anyone who's read 3 of my posts doesn't know my political views.

 

As Winston Churchill said:

“Any man who is under 30' date=' and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.[/b']”

 

Ah that man was so wise!

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It also amazes me how many people will make the statement' date=' "I don't believe any of the networks, so I get my news from an impartial source, [b']NPR[/b].

 

NPR unbiased? Cripes.

 

So if I attempt to point out just how left wing NPR is, I get immediatley attacked as a Rush Limbaugh DittoHead simply because I pointed out something they didn't want to hear. I'm not a DittoHead. I'm not an AnythingHead. Refer to my first paragraph.

 

'cause truth has a liberal bias, right?

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The fact is that all media exits not to inform but to make money. All have their agenda' date=' and all cater to a market segment with their own spin. [/quote']

 

This says it all. To say that FOX (R. Murdoch) is better than ABC (Disney) or that NBC (GE) is better than CNN (Time-Warner) is bs. The amount of tabloid not-news that these networks cover turns my stomach. It's all sensationalism meant to bring in views & advertisement dollars. I do watch a lot of MSNBC between 7pm & 9pm when hockey isn't on or I am not watching comedy on IFC and it is mostly entertainment and to get my liberal commentary fix. I am under no illusion that Olbermann's commentary is anything but commentary. Do any of you Fox viewers watch Sean "small man, big mouth/water boarding for charity" Hannity or O'Reilly with any other mindset than it's just commentary and not news? And I have a subscription to Salon.com (shout out to Glenn Greenwald).

 

To the original question, I get most of my internal news from the internet (bbc.co.uk/news & cbc.ca/news), my local news from the Tribune newspaper & WGN tv (best meteorologists on the tube), and some national news off of links to AP and Reuters. All of this is supplemented with heavy doses of NPR. It's on all morning as I get ready for work and it's the first thing I turn on when I get home. In Chicago we are very fortunate to have one of the best NPR stations in the country.

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'cause truth has a liberal bias' date=' right?

 

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What I was trying to convey in that statement was that someone who listens to Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck knows the message will lean to the conservative side. Someone who listens to Al Franken or Jeanine Garofalo or someone on the left side of the fence knows the message will lean liberal. People often choose their new sources based on what they want to hear. Both sides do it. However there are many who assume that a public network will be neutral, fair, balanced, all that. I just don't think there is such an animal as a network that is completely impartial.

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Everyone of them' date=' with the exception of your newspaper, is pure sensationalism.[/quote']

 

So true...what ever happened to just reporting the news?

 

Cos frankly, if I really want someone's opinion I will ask him/her myself.

 

If someone gets paid to yammer at me about his/her opinion, well, I wonder what he or she would REALLY think if if he/she wasn't drawing a salary...[bored]

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Off shore, foreign news has a much better and informed repoting than the US TV and news papers. Maybge because they have no vested interest, only a journalistic one.

As far as the Churchill quote, I am amazed by how many conservatives I know become far more liberal in their older years. I think it has to do woth Social Security and Medi-Care and other "socialistic" programs. Cleverly worded statements like that give an aura of being deep and meaningful when they are nerely clever.

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I also see the lies and the hate that comes from the right' date=' much of it initiated out of FOX. I see the poster children of the right wing- Karl Rove, Glenn Beck, Sara Palin, Rush Limbaugh (I actually listen to him occasionally, too), Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, etc., etc.- spouting their mis-information and vitriolic BS. I see how the right wing works.[/quote']

I suppose you watched all the coverage of the Tea Parties and their attendant "teabaggers" on CNN?

I'm sure they were very objective in their coverage of all that, and their pre-occupation with it almost daily.

Explained fully the idea behind it, the inspiration, the goals, and discussed the diverse politics supporting it.

Not.

 

 

 

 

Here's another little nugget I heard about from Hannity - not my favorite, but a great partisan Republican.

I saw it played NOWHERE ELSE but on Fox.

 

 

Tell me this stupid fxxk needs to be paid $175,000 a year to be in the Congress of the United States.....

 

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]

 

NONE of the "other" stations ever aired these clips that I saw, it was mentioned only in passing on one.

 

Fair & Balanced has nothing to do with it.

When we have people this stupid inhaling the oxygen inside the halls of Congress, we got a problem.

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Here's another little nugget I heard about from Hannity - not my favorite' date=' but a great partisan Republican.

I saw it played NOWHERE ELSE but on Fox.

 

 

Tell me this stupid fxxk needs to be paid $175,000 a year to be in the Congress of the United States.....

 

[YOUTUBE']http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]

 

NONE of the "other" stations ever aired these clips that I saw, it was mentioned only in passing on one.

 

Fair & Balanced has nothing to do with it.

When we have people this stupid inhaling the oxygen inside the halls of Congress, we got a problem.

 

Ahem, Neo, I saw that on - gasp - MSNBC. But they only ran it because they knew would say that only Fox carried it. Insidious commie ba***rds

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Everyone of them' date=' with the exception of your newspaper, is pure sensationalism.[/quote']

You've obviously never read the Arizona Republic out of Phoenix.

Don't need comics in the back section - the whole paper is hilarious.

Before Janet Napolitano went to Washington to be Homeland Security Chief, she was our governor.

Before that, she was our attorney general.

The whole time she was in office, the Republic was her personal propaganda arm, and still worships her in D.C.

 

The only person they give as much print to is Sheriff Joe Arpaio, because they want him out of office.

Never mind he's elected by VOTERS over and over, the newspaper wants his *** gone.

 

Fair & Balanced?

 

 

Met a couple of their reporters at various civil functions in Phoenix.

I gave interviews that they printed parts of, and actually did a decent job of using my comments.

 

They actually remembered what Journalism School teaches about context.

 

But for the most part (and these guys acknowledge it readily - in private) they are a tool of the Liberals...

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You're the other guy who watches MSDNC!!!

 

:)/

 

 

So' date=' um, what are your feelings on the service [b']The Honorable Representative Johnson[/b] (D-Georgia) gives us?

 

And I am the guy who saw what you said was only reported by Fox. Do you realize you just pretty much supported what many haters of Fox are saying. The other guys do report on the things Fox thinks are important in an unbiased way. Well maybe not totally unbiased. They really made fun of this guy in a way that some may call unjournalistic. But they did report it.

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Ah, here we go.

The knee-jerk stuff begins, so let's apply a little more spin to it.....

Here, I'll whip out my secret Liberal-slaying weapons - facts and logic.

 

 

And I am the guy who saw what you said was only reported by Fox.

You're wrong.

You're stating as fact - and quoting me as saying - something I never said.

I said I never saw the clip on any of the other stations' date=' and saw it mentioned on only one.

I do not monitor all channels 24/7, and it's very likely I miss the majority of their stories.

I NEVER stated that it was reported only on Fox.

 

 

 

Do you realize you just pretty much supported what many haters of Fox are saying.

No.

Explain.

With facts.

 

 

 

The other guys do report on the things Fox thinks are important in an unbiased way.

Would the very definition of "bias" lend itself to subjectivity?

And would you honestly state to the whole wide world on the world wide web that you harbor no bias?

San Francisco' date=' Liberal, and such....

 

 

 

Well maybe not totally unbiased.

Ah, yes - the quick disclaimer.

I separated these two "bias" statements for a reason.

One can easily be used without the other to spin a quote, or together to relay a more accurate representation.

Depends on how your bias prompts you to use them, eh?

 

 

 

They really made fun of this guy in a way that some may call unjournalistic.

It may be unjournalistic' date=' but that's hardly shocking in the last 15 years.

People like that NEED to be exposed, but they do not need to be made fun of in the news.

Their sheer stupidity is clearly on display, it's up to the viewer to see it, understand it, and care at all.

Making fun of them is the job of Leno, Letterman, Stewart, Maher, Garafalo, Franken....

Wait - scratch that. Franken's out of comedy now - or is he.....?

 

 

 

But they did report it.

There you go.

Finish it up with your declaration that YOU know the truth and you cared enough about me to "right my wrongs".

All based on false pretense going back to your original statement.

 

 

 

That, Ladies & Gentlemen, is Political Spin 101,

As demonstrated by a Lobotomized Left Coast Lefty and a Hard-Core Right-Wing Nutjob - as Carter calls me.

And you don't have to attend the NeoCon School of Journalism Excellence to figure it out.

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As a general rule, I don't like to watch any news channel. Unfortunately at work I am kinda forced to watch them, all of them. It works out though, because I watch the daily show and colbert report at 11, and they usually make fun of the stuff that I watched during the day. Seriously though, most of these networks should be taken with a grain of salt, they all have their own agenda. I usually check anything i have any interest in on factcheck or snopes or whatever.

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Touchy. But if it makes you feel better' date=' go on.[/quote']

No, it's your turn.

By all means, clarify...

 

[cool]

 

 

grampa wrote:

Do you realize you just pretty much supported what many haters of Fox are saying.

 

NeoConMan replied:

No.

Explain.

With facts.

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