Silenced Fred Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Originally, I had my mind set on getting a Sheraton, but I had to go pick up strings at GC, so I saw the new 50th Anni Casino, and I was blown away! Hollowbodies plus P90s is the stuff of kings. So I'm looking for used Casinos, but I have no idea what to look for, what to avoid, expected prices, etc. And I thought you guys would be the ones to ask! Preferably, it would be a MIK version with a cool finish (turquoise, black, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I have two Casinos. The reason why I have two Casinos is because they are outstanding guitars. I have a Standard model and the Inspired By Lennon model. If you buy one of those models you will be assured of a fantastic guitar at a fantastic price. The only "flaw" that you may come across in a Casino is the bridge rattle. It is caused by a retaining wire that is not pressed down tight enough. No big deal if it happens (simply press down the wire or swap out the bridge). You will find tons of guys here who will rave about their Casinos. That's to be expected at an Epiphone forum. But here's the interesting thing: if you go to any other guitar forum (Gretsch, Fender, Rickenbacker...) you will find guys there also raving about their Casinos. The guitar is very well loved and respoected by any guitar player who has played one. Why? Because it truly is a great guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweed2 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 FF, I spent a little time researching Casinos before I bought mine, last year and this is what I set for parameters. Either MIK or late MIC (the first year or two of the MIC were spotty in their quality). Early 2000's are highly thought of. I wanted a clean slate to stat with, for modding, unless I could find one that had the exact mods I planned on doing. I wanted one that inclded a HSC (but didn't rule out good deals on ones that didn't come with one). You can get a reasonably good case for $70. I wanted the natural finish on mine as most of my other guitars are the same. You should be able to find a good used Casino for $400-550, depending. Up until now, the Casino has become the guitar I play the most, although I own guitars worth much more. That may change with my new Korina SG, we'll see. Don't fall for the complaint that they are very prone to feedback. If you don't pay attention to proximity to your amp, it could be a problem. But at the same time, I've had hours of fun playing with the controlled feedback that can be attained with one of these. They are not idiot proof, but can do things a lot of other guitars can't, with a little finesse. All around, I think that they are one of the most versatile guitars available. I love mine and with a few mods, are a fantastic deal. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Casinos and fuzz = [thumbup] .........You'll love a Casino, but Sheratons are awesome as well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I've got to agree about the feedback issue. I have 2 casinos (MIK and MIC) and I play them loudly through an AC-30 2-4 times a week and now that i've got to grips with them I don't have any feedback issues. You get used to controlling it by muting the strings, turning the volume down when facing your amp etc. The peerless Casinos are a bit more prone to feedback in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesster97 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 i never get any feedback on mine and mine its just the standard one there really good guitars for the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aster1 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 The Casino is one of my absolute fav-o-rite guitars. Just love it. Aster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svet Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 The p90 hollowbody design of the Casino is just wonderful! I've got a Casino and a Sheraton and the Casino is far more prone to feedback but this can be advantagous! The Sheraton does have easier upper fret access so that's somthing you need to consider as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Yeah, I'm not sure. I will have to see if I can go into a shop and bring my rig in to play with one to see if feedback will be too much of an issue. I play lots of clean, but I do partake in heavy doses of fuzz... I might just get the casino for cleaner stuff, then do the LP for heavier fuzz stuff. Or I might go Sheraton with P90s, but I'm hoping the casino works out. Thanks for the awesome advice guys, you know your stuff! nate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyseven Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 i never get any feedback on mine and mine its just the standard one there really good guitars for the price Don't get me wrong, but are you a bedroom player? Of course you get feedback with this guitar when you're playing in a band situation, what means to drive your amp a little harder... Anyway, Casinos are great, great for any kind of music. I love my "inspired by" Casino and won't sell it.The best you get out of this guitar when you're not using pedals.Just straight into a cranked amp.I do this with an AC30 with Greenbacks and can'r be happier with the tones i get! Sometimes i use a booster to get the "same" at lower volume...but it's not the same as cranking your amp.... Edit: You'll LOVE to "play" with the feedback, better than any pedal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I will never understand why some people consider feedback on hollow bodies a "problem". It's basically just an added effect that can easily be controlled. Don't you people listen to rock and roll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzoboy Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 As the owner of 2 Casinos-a 1965 John Lennon and a MIC natural-I can wholeheartedly say that they are great guitars so much so that the John Lennon is the easiest playing and my favourite of my 30 guitars.Go for the Casino-you won't regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyseven Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I will never understand why some people consider feedback on hollow bodies a "problem". It's basically just an added effect that can easily be controlled. Don't you people listen to rock and roll? +1 Soooo true, you know what's goin' on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Don't get me wrong, but are you a bedroom player? Of course you get feedback with this guitar when you're playing in a band situation Really? Then how come I have no feedback issues from either of my Casinos when I play live with my band, through a 30w valve amp? And often I have the gain over halfway up. Helter Skelter, Revolution, The End... Pretty gainy songs and yet no unwanted feedback ever. You can get feedback if you want, but it's not the untameable beast that everyone makes out. Especially the newer ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyseven Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Really? Then how come I have no feedback issues from either of my Casinos when I play live with my band, through a 30w valve amp? And often I have the gain over halfway up. Helter Skelter, Revolution, The End... Pretty gainy songs and yet no unwanted feedback ever. You can get feedback if you want, but it's not the untameable beast that everyone makes out. Especially the newer ones. OK, cool.But how far away are you from your amp? But anyway, nice to hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I have a 1970 Kalamazoo Gibson ES-330 and a 2001 Korea/Peerless Casino. I love them both!!! The Gibson is definitely better but the difference is not that significant. The main thing I like about the 330 is the higher fret access. Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Sorry, double post. See below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I have a 1970 Kalamazoo Gibson ES-330 and a 2001 Korea/Peerless Casino. I love them both!!! The main thing I like about the 330 is the higher fret access. I would agree. I also have a 330 (the recent L model) and a Peerless Casino, as well an Elitist Casino. The neck on the new 330 is the 30/60 style, and along with the greater fretboard access, I find it overall to be the most comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I will never understand why some people consider feedback on hollow bodies a "problem". Don't you people listen to rock and roll? Uhh, you ever think people might want their hollow body to play something that isn't rock and roll? That's where the "problem" comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesster97 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Don't get me wrong, but are you a bedroom player? Of course you get feedback with this guitar when you're playing in a band situation, what means to drive your amp a little harder... Anyway, Casinos are great, great for any kind of music. I love my "inspired by" Casino and won't sell it.The best you get out of this guitar when you're not using pedals.Just straight into a cranked amp.I do this with an AC30 with Greenbacks and can'r be happier with the tones i get! Sometimes i use a booster to get the "same" at lower volume...but it's not the same as cranking your amp.... Edit: You'll LOVE to "play" with the feedback, better than any pedal... yea i get feedback on full gain but if its low-medium bareley any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Uhh, you ever think people might want their hollow body to play something that isn't rock and roll? That's where the "problem" comes in. UHH, you ever think that some people don't know how far to stand away from their amp or how to properly adjust the settings for such a situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 UHH, you ever think that some people don't know how far to stand away from their amp? Uhh, you are changing your story now. You thought guitar players only play rock and roll. Why you thought that, I have no idea. I pointed out that many guitar players in this world may prefer to play something other than rock and roll and therefore would not need feedback in their music. But you think everyone who picks up an electric guitar uses massive waves of distortion and feedback. I can recommend to you about a million guitar players throughout history who would consider feedback a problem. You should expand your horizons. Uhh, there's much more to electric guitar than distortion and feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Uhh, you are changing your story now. You thought guitar players only play rock and roll. Why you thought that, I have no idea. I pointed out that many guitar players in this world may prefer to play something other than rock and roll and therefore would not need feedback in their music. But you think everyone who picks up an electric guitar uses massive waves of distortion and feedback. I can recommend to you about a million guitar players throughout history who would consider feedback a problem. You should expand your horizons. Uhh, there's much more to electric guitar than distortion and feedback. And where exactly did I say ANY of that?? My horizons are expanded just fine, but thanks for your concern. I have no idea what you are talking about or what your problem is or why you found it necessary to randomly make up stuff that I didn't say. I think you have a lot more serious problems than feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 And where exactly did I say ANY of that?? My horizons are expanded just fine, but thanks for your concern. I have no idea what you are talking about or what your problem is or why you found it necessary to randomly make up stuff that I didn't say. This is a perfect example of someone reading/hearing something that is communicated, and NOT actually reading or listening to the actual words. So many folks have a built-in "bias filter". Instead of reading what is wrote, they tend to "read-into" what is wrote. They see things between the lines that are not there, or not intended to be there. And they use this to enforce their belief, and to rally against the other persons belief. You are correct SS. You never said any of the stuff that taxman said you did. But he needed to say you did, so he could argue that his point is correct. Politicians do this almost every time they speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 And where exactly did I say ANY of that?? Are you serious? You said it one page back! Here are your exact words: "I will never understand why some people consider feedback on hollow bodies a "problem". Don't you people listen to rock and roll?" I will take your narrow-minded points one at a time. 1."I will never understand why some people consider feedback on hollow bodies a "problem"." Some people consider feedback a "problem" because the style of music they are playing does not go well with feedback. 2."Don't you people listen to rock and roll?" Yes, we listen to rock and roll. But we also listen to reggae, country western, jazz, ska, bluegrass, classical, pop, Spanish...other forms of music that do not sit well with feedback. You can not understand why people have problems with a guitar feeding back. Those are your words. I didn't make them up. I merely pointed out that there are other forms of music out there in which feedback is not a desired effect. Dude, you should have just said feedback can be great for rock and roll and moved on. Instead you are now claiming you never said things that you said. No big deal, I'm not here to argue, just to help out when I can here and there. Feedback is NOT an effect that I want when I play my music. There are millions and millions of other guitar players who feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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