OldGuitarPlayer Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 What do you think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-with-case-Gibson-J45-deluxe-A-number-2-S-b004363-guitar-sun-burst-usa-/290697060354?pt=Guitar&hash=item43aee52002#ht_716wt_932 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Looks legit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 It looks genuine to me also. It does have some of that '70s Norlin/Gibson funkiness going on, that might make you think it is a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchie69 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 A genuine norlin/gibson J45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuitarPlayer Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 The trussrod cover on this guitar has 3 screws. I always thought Gibson truss rod covers had 2 screws. Maybe it's not original though. Again I am no expert but thought that the 1970's J-45 Deluxe was square shouldered. Like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-72-Gibson-Kalamazoo-USA-J-45-J45-Acoustic-Guitar-w-Case-25-5-Scale-/230774694922?pt=Guitar&hash=item35bb3e640a#ht_6665wt_965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The trussrod cover on this guitar has 3 screws. I always thought Gibson truss rod covers had 2 screws. Maybe it's not original though. Again I am no expert but thought that the 1970's J-45 Deluxe was square shouldered. Like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-72-Gibson-Kalamazoo-USA-J-45-J45-Acoustic-Guitar-w-Case-25-5-Scale-/230774694922?pt=Guitar&hash=item35bb3e640a#ht_6665wt_965 The 3 screw TR cover is a dead give away that it's a fake. Gibson never used a 3 screw TR cover and the "fakers" get this wrong a lot. Stay away from this beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The 3 screw TR cover is a dead give away that it's a fake. Gibson never used a 3 screw TR cover and the "fakers" get this wrong a lot. Stay away from this beast. Agree with Paul. Don't think that pickguard design is quite right, either. Surprisingly good, otherwise, although the belly-down fixed-saddle bridge is also suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltonwce Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Gibson Did use three screw truss covers on Norlin Era Square shoulder guitars. I have one . Bought it for $100.00 in 1976. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchie69 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Gibson Did use three screw truss covers on Norlin Era Square shoulder guitars. I have one . Bought it for $100.00 in 1976. You're right Elton, they used the 3 screw truss covers also on some j-200. here a 1974 j-200 artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The trussrod cover on this guitar has 3 screws. I always thought Gibson truss rod covers had 2 screws. Maybe it's not original though. Again I am no expert but thought that the 1970's J-45 Deluxe was square shouldered. Like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-72-Gibson-Kalamazoo-USA-J-45-J45-Acoustic-Guitar-w-Case-25-5-Scale-/230774694922?pt=Guitar&hash=item35bb3e640a#ht_6665wt_965 The guitar in question IS square-shouldered! And I believe the 3-screwed TRC would be the LEAST 'bone of contention' of whether the guitar is genuine or not. At least to my way of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 For what purpose would anyone build a fake Norlin era Gibson?!? Just sayin'........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The guitar in question IS square-shouldered! And I believe the 3-screwed TRC would be the LEAST 'bone of contention' of whether the guitar is genuine or not. At least to my way of thinking. Most of the details look right, and the label certainly does. I don't know enough about Norlin-era sqaures to really comment intelligently. Even it if it's genuine, the headstock repair and Norlin heritage make it questionable at best, at any price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Why would anyone build a fake square shouldered J-45? And if they did why would it have a headstock crack? And why would they deliberately mark it as a factory second? (This one has a factory second stamp on the back of the headstock). It's a real Norlin era J-45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdwilliams Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 What do you think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-with-case-Gibson-J45-deluxe-A-number-2-S-b004363-guitar-sun-burst-usa-/290697060354?pt=Guitar&hash=item43aee52002#ht_716wt_932 '1970's with case Gibson J45 deluxe A number 2 S#b004363 guitar sun burst usa' It hasn't sold for that. The price will soon be $1800.00 or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 For what purpose would anyone build a fake Norlin era Gibson?!? Just sayin'........... LOL....you got a point Buc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowster Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Gibson Did use three screw truss covers on Norlin Era Square shoulder guitars. I have one . Bought it for $100.00 in 1976. what about les pauls i've a mate who has a lp and its got 3 screw truss cover, any body know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuitarPlayer Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 The guitar in question IS square-shouldered! And I believe the 3-screwed TRC would be the LEAST 'bone of contention' of whether the guitar is genuine or not. At least to my way of thinking. LOL you are right. I guess I was half asleep when I first looked at the pictures. I don't know but something just didn't seem right to me about that guitar. I guess it was the 3 screw truss rod cover that made me think it wasn't legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuitarPlayer Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 For what purpose would anyone build a fake Norlin era Gibson?!? Just sayin'........... I know...haha! However there are fake Epiphone acoustic guitars being made too and I ask myself the same question. Why would anyone fake a $300 Epiphone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 A mid-1970s J-45 which did have the three screw truss rods. Looks totally legit to me. I would first do a search to find out what these guitars normally sell for. If the average street price on the guitar is say $1600 (that is just a guess), I would figure on taking between $900 and $1000 off for the broken headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 . Yes, even with square shoulders and 3 screw TRC, genuine Norlin. There are some legit complaints about Norlin era Gibson guitars, but there are gems to be found. However, Norlin era coupled that headstock crack would be a deal killer for me. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuitarPlayer Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 I am certainly not interested in purchasing he guitar in question even if it is genuine. I just thought it was odd looking and quite possibly a fake. I posted the eBay listing to see what the learned group of Gibson experts here thought of it being legit or not. I learned something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I am certainly not interested in purchasing he guitar in question even if it is genuine. I just thought it was odd looking and quite possibly a fake. I posted the eBay listing to see what the learned group of Gibson experts here thought of it being legit or not. I learned something new. Learning something new isnt a bad thing... But owning one of those could be.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modoc_333 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 what about les pauls i've a mate who has a lp and its got 3 screw truss cover, any body know I have seen it on acoustics... but never on Les Pauls. how old is his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowster Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I have seen it on acoustics... but never on Les Pauls. how old is his? quite recent must be least in the last ten years , i didnt want to say to him ha ha ha thats a fake, he's got two one has two screws one has three screws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I hate when they look fake.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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