capmaster Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Being curious about the origin of the Gibson metallic colour denomination, beside others I found this thread here: http://forums.guitarnoise.com/viewtopic.php?t=55998 Funny that it was started by a Guitarnoise member from Moscow with the forum name Kopfschmerzen meaning headache in German... Our Bob aka Notes_Norton brought the Cadillac finish into play, but the car makers also must have had any idea or reference I guess. But whatever would that have been? Most pelhams - the horse bits - don't have a hue like this. Any ideas or references? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 I hate that color on guitars. Just me. I have none bearing it and guess it will stay that way. One of my Strats is Lake Placid Blue, her hue interestingly is very close to Pelham Blue and matches her nicely. My son said at the guitar store he loves it, and so we went with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I think its simply from the Cadillac colour charts. Why at Cadillac? - who knows, could someone's surname who worked there maybe? In the 1970's our most popular family car produced by GM could be (and was by some) purchased in a pink/purple metallic colour officially called 'Barney's Shirt' - why? - because some dude named Barney in the GM styling dept office wore a shirt that particular colour one day and they liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 My favorite is when the Pelham blue starts to yellow just a bit making it more Pelham green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Could it be named after the color of one of the lakes in Pelham Bay Park in Bronx, New York? http://www.nycgovparks.org/parks/pelham-bay-park Notes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Being curious about the origin of the Gibson metallic colour denomination, beside others I found this thread here: http://forums.guitarnoise.com/viewtopic.php?t=55998 Funny that it was started by a Guitarnoise member from Moscow with the forum name Kopfschmerzen meaning headache in German... Our Bob aka Notes_Norton brought the Cadillac finish into play, but the car makers also must have had any idea or reference I guess. But whatever would that have been? Most pelhams - the horse bits - don't have a hue like this. Any ideas or references? I have none bearing it and guess it will stay that way. One of my Strats is Lake Placid Blue, her hue interestingly is very close to Pelham Blue and matches her nicely. I think its simply from the Cadillac colour charts. Why at Cadillac? - who knows, could someone's surname who worked there maybe? In the 1970's our most popular family car produced by GM could be (and was by some) purchased in a pink/purple metallic colour officially called 'Barney's Shirt' - why? - because some dude named Barney in the GM styling dept office wore a shirt that particular colour one day and they liked it. That Gibson color (pelham blue) is the very same color as a Fender color. I can't remember for sure which one, but I think it IS lake placid blue. As for the Cadillac reference, many popular guitar colors ARE Cadillac colors. But also, a lot of General Motors colors used within the company are the same colors, but they use different names. Just a theory, but I think why the reference to Cadillac might have something to do with the fact they just used more colors. Caddy's, especially 60's and 70's Cads, came in LOTS of colors. But either way, point I am making is these colors are more often than not, the same paint itself. Gibson might not be getting the paint from the same supplier as the originals, but back then they all got these colors from the same paint manufacturer. So the same color for a Gibson, a Fender, A Cadillac, and a Buick would each have a different name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brundaddy Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Naming colors has to be one of the most absurd things on this planet, and there is often almost no rhyme or reason whatsoever. It's like bad poetry, but funnier. If there is a place called "Pelham," that's a good guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Could it be named after the color of one of the lakes in Pelham Bay Park in Bronx, New York? http://www.nycgovparks.org/parks/pelham-bay-park Notes Very good idea! Looks rather likely to me. Taking a look at this picture of the Mirror Lake near Lake Placid reveals a fairly close match to the finish of my Strat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Naming colors has to be one of the most absurd things on this planet, and there is often almost no rhyme or reason whatsoever. It's like bad poetry, but funnier. If there is a place called "Pelham," that's a good guess. Perhaps I'm spoilt by more "reasonable" names like tea burst, cherry red, candy apple red, honey burst, tobacco burst, ebony, root beer and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 It's all just marketing. Aztec Gold? Dakota Red? Pelham Blue? Buy! Buy! Buy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hello! Inverness green... Inverness, Scotland. Cheers... Bence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Pelham Bay, New York: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Desert Burst: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Wine red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Fiesta Red: La Tomatina festival in Buñol, Spain. Cheers... Bence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 There's a Pelham Market/Pelham Road/Pelham Street right in Dearborn Heights Michigan. Thank you. You can send the check to me at this address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 TV Yellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Here it is - Pelham Trailer Park, Dearborn Heights, Michigan - Street View https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pelham+Mobile+Home+Park/@42.2802643,-83.2315444,3a,75y,270.63h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBd3XRfX8CiQ4vLdB0xhHPw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xe5fb458945b8d280!6m1!1e1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Keep them coming! "Imagination is more important than knowledge because knowledge is limited." - Albert Einstein Let's have some fun with reverse engineering of finish names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Naming colors has to be one of the most absurd things on this planet, and there is often almost no rhyme or reason whatsoever. It's like bad poetry, but funnier. If there is a place called "Pelham," that's a good guess. Almost as difficult as naming bands. ;) Back to colors. Fact: Women see colors better than men. Females have many more cone cells in their eyes, and men have many more rods. That makes women better at seeing color and men better and seeing shape and movement. IMHO that's why if you go to the store, you will see 2,247 different shades of red nail polish. As a male, I see 3. Dark, medium and light red. And yes, I'm jealous, I want the shape, movement, and colors. ;) Notes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 ... Fact: Women see colors better than men. ... That makes women better at seeing color ... Notes In photographic laboratories making colour prints has always been a women's business. Their abilities in quickly evaluating negative (!) hues make them way better and faster in setting the filters than men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 It's all just marketing. Aztec Gold? Dakota Red? Pelham Blue? Buy! Buy! Buy! Right on! I have a new Amer. Stand. Strat in "Mystic Aztec Gold"...the only thing mystic about it is how they arrived at that name!(?) It's metallic gold to me...but I'm hue color blind most of the time and metallic gold is so...boring? I guess. I haven't held it under full moon light in October tho... Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Wine red THAT is worth the price of admission!! Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Right on! I have a new Amer. Stand. Strat in "Mystic Aztec Gold"...the only thing mystic about it is how they arrived at that name!(?) It's metallic gold to me...but I'm hue color blind most of the time and metallic gold is so...boring? I guess. I haven't held it under full moon light in October tho... Brian The next October full moon will be in about two weeks. Perhaps a chance to catch a glimpse of the mystic part of it. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 TV Yellow: I think the TV yellow was actually designed to look good on tv with the black and white cameras back in the 50s but I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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