badbluesplayer Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Yeah - Crickets are good when it comes to the Memphis line.
stein Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 What I was kinda hoping for was to see Memphis 2016 prices drop like the Gibson USA 2016 price drop.
BigKahune Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 . FWIW - This thread apparently has a pic of some in post #2 - http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/125484-2016-memphis-models/ .
SteveFord Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 It's up - 7 grand for a Lucille with Richlite.
cody78 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Dear Gibson Memphis - please bring back the stereo ES 345 Reissue in Trans Brown. One of the most fantastic looking and sounding semi's you ever produced. ...moving on, that's the first time I've seen a ES Les Paul Studio - looks interesting. However, as usual my favourites remain the ES 175's.
Galllo Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 very disappointing.... was hoping they would bring back the '59 reissue of the ES-345 in Natural :(
powerwagonjohn Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I hear ya Cody, my 2009 brown ES-345 is sitting right here in front of my amp and ZI was just playing it. And I DO use the stereo every once and a while. Usually when the wife is out and then I run two amps, one for each channel. Despite what some say I find the varitone and the stereo features very useful, especially the Varitone. Thanks John
jc1funk Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 What I was kinda hoping for was to see Memphis 2016 prices drop like the Gibson USA 2016 price drop. Careful what you wish for there... you'd assume a price drop means compromises in quality of woods etc no? No such thing as a free lunch! Interesting move to the BB1&2 on the 335s (my main interest in this line); good move ditching the BB Pros. Shame they moved away from the slim taper neck... it's my favourite but the soft c will no doubt make others happy.. wondering what the difference is... Great colours on the 335s this year... and the Studio 335 is starting to look like a reasonable offering. Speaking of Studios, that wine red ES-lester looks pretty bad *** too... For all the craziness of the USA line up I gotta say I think the Memphis line has the right balance of stability and year-to-year changes. Like the fact that they haven't done a Black 335 five in a few years now... keeps it interesting and makes mine rarer ;)
GottaBeGibson Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 I'm assuming that some of the guitars shown in that other thread that are not in the 2016 lineup at launch will be limited runs. Some may be exclusives - AMS is selling a 2015 ES-Les Paul Goldtop VOS with P90's and a wraparound tailpiece that I haven't seen elsewhere.
merciful-evans Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 I've only just noticed that the 2016's were up. For a while it looked like Memphis were going to give 2016 a miss. The ES-Les Pauls appeal.
cody78 Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 I hear ya Cody, my 2009 brown ES-345 is sitting right here in front of my amp and ZI was just playing it. And I DO use the stereo every once and a while. Usually when the wife is out and then I run two amps, one for each channel. Despite what some say I find the varitone and the stereo features very useful, especially the Varitone. Thanks John I'm jealous! I've been after one for a long time & found a few used ones last year, but finances and timing didn't line up as I got a few other Gibson's last year before I found the used 345's. Will hopefully get one one day as it's one that is high on the list to purchase.
Pin Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 I hear ya Cody, my 2009 brown ES-345 is sitting right here in front of my amp and ZI was just playing it. And I DO use the stereo every once and a while. Usually when the wife is out and then I run two amps, one for each channel. Despite what some say I find the varitone and the stereo features very useful, especially the Varitone. Thanks John You must be one of the few John that uses the stereo but good luck to you. When I had my 1964 ES345 (long gone...sad to say) I used the stereo just once. My current reissue 345 is Mono (which I prefer) but thank God it has the Varitone although to be honest I wouldn't have bought it if it hadn't had what I regard as the de rigueur device for the guitar.
charlie brown Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 It's up - 7 grand for a Lucille with Richlite. I know, huh? Wow!!!...I'm sure glad I got mine new (2002 w/Ebony board), when I did!! CB
SteveFord Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 I think that's the old "if it's not selling jack the price up" routine. My Lucille's not for sale. Well, for 7 grand I could be tempted...
charlie brown Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Well, maybe? But, when I got mine, it was priced 3-400 dollars LESS, than a ES-335! I had to triple check that price, with my dealer, at time of purchase, as I couldn't believe it being (basically at ES-355 without "f" holes) priced less, than a 335! They told me, at that time, it was because "Lucille" was not in the kind of demand, that 335's were. So, I made out like a "bandit," price wise, with mine. CB
powerwagonjohn Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I found my ES-345 in a shop in Iowa three or four years ago. It had been hanging there, new since 2009. It's a 345 and it's brown, it's like two strikes against it to most people. It took me almost two years to swing a deal and I got a good price on it. I installed a Bigsby using a Vibramate and a Schaller roller bridge. When I take out out to play it always amazes me. It's like driving a Imperial! As I said I don't use the stereo much but when it's not in use Its not in the way as the two jacks save me from having to use a stereo cord. I agree completely with the comments about the Varitone, it's one of the reasons I bought the guitar...plus it's brown! Soon it will need a fret dressing. Good luck with the search for your own. Thanks John
PelhamBlueFire Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I'm not an expert when it comes to neckprofiles. Can you guys tell me what a Traditional C is like? I hope it's not a thin neck. I always felt the ES-335 from last year had a very thin neck. I personally like to have some decent amount of wood on the neck.
powerwagonjohn Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 My 2009 ES-345 has the 60's neck but I would not call it thin by any stretch but it is one of the reasons I bought the guitar. The neck is perfect for me. Thanks John
PelhamBlueFire Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Holy ****! Did you guys see that ES-345 Limited Edition in Frost Blue. Damn! Check out Andertons on YouTube.
charlie brown Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Is Gibson still posting the "selling" price, as opposed to the "List" price, on their web page? If so...Have you seen the "selling price" on 2016 Gibson "Lucille?!" [scared] http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2016/Memphis/B-B-King-Lucille.aspx Glad I got mine, when I did!! CB
GottaBeGibson Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Lots of videos on YouTube from the NAMM Show, showing many guitars not on the site yet. Two of them are in the picture for the announcement of the 2016 line - the new ES-275 and 58 ES-335RI (note the lack of neck binding). Lots of limited runs: Frost Blue ES-345, ES-Les Paul and ES-335 in Pelham Blue, 63 ES-335 Bigsby, ES-Les Paul Special (flat top), ES-Les Paul Standard (no f-holes), ES-Les Paul fully hollow w/Bigsby, and the whole "Premier" series (ES-Les Paul, ES-335, ES-345, ES-Les Paul P90) which utilize thermally aged bracing and center blocks. As if that weren't enough, I saw a Memphis factory tour video made this year, and at the end when they're showing final assembly, there is a brief shot of someone carefully installing a piezo loaded TOM bridge into an ES-Les Paul. Hmmm...
charlie brown Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Regarding the 2016 "Lucille,"...I guess it IS the "selling" price, after all! http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ARLC16EBGH CB
PelhamBlueFire Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Regarding the 2016 "Lucille,"...I guess it IS the "selling" price, after all! http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ARLC16EBGH CB $7000 and you - still - get a Richlite fingerboard, which is out-of-spec. The artist never used one with Richlite, so Gibson technically can't put it on the Lucille. I am getting a Les Paul that has Richlite on fingerboard, but that guitar is $3000 cheaper, and not according to an artist's spec. The Lucille - is - so Gibson dropped the ball here. Richlite plays well and looks pretty nice, but it's still a forged fingerboard, a fake. That's just a principle thing of me. Especially, on a guitar as expensive as the Lucille. That's just a slap in the face. If the Brian May Red Special replica guitar ($750-800 range) can have a genuine Ebony fingerboard, then a decent Gibson should have one, too. Just my opinion.
SteveFord Posted April 1, 2016 Author Posted April 1, 2016 The price of the Lucille has jumped all over the place since its inception. Top of the line price, cheaper than a 335, doubled in price - it's just crazy. I always figured it should cost about the same as the 355 but I guess it's what they feel the market will bear. I don't think Mr. King would have accepted a Richlite fret board, either. I'm still pissed 36 years later about them turning the Limited Edition (ACT NOW!) Lucille Deluxe into a regular production model the following year. It cost me $2000 with case back in 1980 so it was a pretty big purchase for me. They had BB King on the cover of Guitar Player with one and he talked it up quite a bit in the article. I spent hours drooling over that guitar and just had to have it. The Speed Tuners were a really nice feature, shame they dropped them.
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