Tim Plains Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Guy's, the Chinese have studied well. This was just posted on kijiji in Toronto. There are still a few things that give it away but that headstock looks bang on! Like **** I'll ever buy a Les Paul on-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocdman Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 wow someone would really fall for that one. Thats a good fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottierocker Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Man, you'd think after all that work and effort to get it that sharp, the dummies would get an authentic looking TRC. Hell, if they'da done that, only an expert would've even raised an eyebrow!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine71 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I registered here to learn about the Les Pauls before I buy one. It seems the best thing to do when I'm ready to pull the trigger is go to Guitar Center or the like and get new, whatever I have the money for at the time. Stuff like that is really frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKingN Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The sticker on the back and the truss rod cover gives it away, scary stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 it'd never fool me ... i r thmart ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Machine71, nice to have you here. Most of them are honest, so don't feel you need to limit yourself. When in doubt just post the pictures here. You'll get good advice as to whether or not you should pull the trigger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarJunkie Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 There are still a few things that give it away but that headstock looks bang on!Like **** I'll ever buy a Les Paul on-line. The headstock might be the only thing they're getting right. Not even looking at the headstock/truss rod cover, I can see 5 things wrong in that first photo. Six, if you count the fact it comes wrapped in foam in a cardboard box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine71 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Thanks rocketman, I probably will ask here before I buy if I go used. This is a good place to learn a lot in a short amount of time, I saw one red flag on this guitar. More than I would have noticed a few days ago. So I'll keep reading and looking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Machine71. Feel free to ask away. But once you get it the pickguard choice is up to you,,,as long as you leave it off...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 How come i cant see the pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibson61 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 the cutaway looks short to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil325 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 man i'm terrible at spotting fakes...everyone's like "i spotted 6 already" me? maybe one. haha...one day ill build that "detecting eye" talent that so many of you possess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantha Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The headstock might be the only thing they're getting right. Not even looking at the headstock/truss rod cover' date=' I can see 5 things wrong in that first photo. Six, if you count the fact it comes wrapped in foam in a cardboard box.[/quote'] Trying to learn myself.. There's something odd looking to me about the curve of the body where the switch is (not sure if it has a technical term or not.. hump?). Is that one of them, or am I just seeing things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixstrings Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Man counterfeitism is rampant in China. They're getting away with murder. You can get a knock-off of everything there. Software, etc... I used to manage a computer store and this guy from China comes in wanting to buy Microsoft Office. I told him the price and he said "Na, I'll wait until I get back to China. You can get them anywhere for $5." I said "Good then, go back to China then." Where the heck are the sanctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawk233 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 China is gaining ground by "robbery" they are basicly the underground crooks of the world... Not all of them, but these counterfits etc.. I have a chiniese ipod that I broke a while ago. Also I see 3 things wrong, not going to say what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madguitarist78 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Does Fender have chineese runnin around selling fakes as well or is it the FACT we are the best????:- =P~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgumby62 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Man counterfeitism is rampant in China. They're getting away with murder. You can get a knock-off of everything there. Software' date=' etc... I used to manage a computer store and this guy from China comes in wanting to buy Microsoft Office. I told him the price and he said "Na, I'll wait until I get back to China. You can get them anywhere for $5." I said "Good then, go back to China then." Where the heck are the sanctions?[/quote'] Totally agree 100%. All the knock off stuff that comes out of China really does warrant some action at a government level, especially after the contaminated milk fiasco, which i believe that New Zealand brought to the worlds attention. In the long run the Chinese are just hurting their own standing in the eyes of the world and consumers will turn away from buying Chinese products, even bespoke products, because of their tainted reputation. Surely the Chinese government can see the damage this does to their standing in the world community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clance Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I see three things wrong. And its times like these that I'm glad I'm an Explorer and a 335 fan. And I have NEVER seen fakes of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Totally agree 100%. All the knock off stuff that comes out of China really does warrant some action at a government level' date=' especially after the contaminated milk fiasco, which i believe that New Zealand brought to the worlds attention. In the long run the Chinese are just hurting their own standing in the eyes of the world and consumers will turn away from buying Chinese products, even bespoke products, because of their tainted reputation. Surely the Chinese government can see the damage this does to their standing in the world community.[/quote']They have CDs full of our Software that they sell for pennies...or so I've heard. Seriously though, this is the biggest slam to not just the American guitar market, but to the economy as a whole! This is why I will NEVER by anything online, let alone a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The headstock might be the only thing they're getting right. Not even looking at the headstock/truss rod cover' date=' I can see 5 things wrong in that first photo. Six, if you count the fact it comes wrapped in foam in a cardboard box.[/quote'] I, too, see five but I'm not sure they will be the same five! Now I really am thinking we may be spreading too much wisdom here. How can we help and advise people what are the tell-tale signs without making the counterfeiters wiser? Having said that, here goes. One flaw is hard to overcome - The absence of fret-binding. O.K., we know that fixing this would be the most costly alteration. The hardware anomalies (not telling!) would take little effort to rectify. The basic shape (two counts, but not telling!) is just re-adjusting their tooling. The hardware positioning (still not telling...), likewise, easy to adjust. If we then dial-in the simplicity of sourcing the proper type of TRC then, pretty soon, it could become very difficult to spot a fake by snaps posted on the web. Here's hoping they don't find an economical way of doing the neck properly....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 pippy I see binding on the fret board... But man, I've been trying to learn from all of you for a while. I really need to do more observations, 5 or 6,,, I think I saw 2; but even that was hard for me... I'm impressed.. I'll keep looking. (BTW: I think we’re fooling ourselves. If I was running a company trying to make knock off's; how hard would it be to buy a few guitars measure them and tell my cnc machines to knock them out?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (BTW: I think we’re fooling ourselves. If I was running a company trying to make knock off's; how hard would it be to buy a few guitars measure them and tell my cnc machines to knock them out?) I know' date=' and you are correct. This point has been made before. The one thing in our favour is we are passionate about, [i']and understand the nuances of[/i], the Les Paul. Things which are obviously wrong to me because I know to look for them might be missed by a faker because they don't see things in exactly the same way. Small, unimportant, details (to a faker) are pretty much the only things they will continue to get wrong, simply because they don't notice them as being wrong in the first place. But you are still correct! The devil really is in the detail........ Sorry about all the italics everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobv Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 dpgumby - I can't quite place where your avatar comes from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarJunkie Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 dpgumby - I can't quite place where your avatar comes from... "This is Spinal Tap" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.