Judson Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just trying to get some info on this Guitar. I have never seen one with trem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Weird. Do you know if that is a rebranded Kahler? I know some Studio models came with a Kahler trem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) I owned one. It was my first guitar. I think Gibson made them for about 5 to 7 years maybe. Mine was a late 70's or early 80's. The body is walnut. Mine had no trem. That's after market. I'm sure the zebra pup is not stock. Mine had dual open coil hums and both were black. Edited June 8, 2020 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Interesting design - the TP-6 is built into it. I've never seen one of those, I like it. Does it stay in tune well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Mine had no trem. That's after market. The trem says Gibson on it. Possibly scavanged from a different guitar I guess. Edited June 8, 2020 by ghost_of_fl typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 The trem says Gibson on it. I think is factory but idk. Stays in tune fine. I wasn’t looking for a guitar with trem but it was shinny, I had money and it’s a Gibson so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 I don't ever recall seeing one with a trem except the one posted. I can't say for sure it's not stock, but I'm pretty damn certain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Yeah sometimes the manufacturers "rebrand" parts. Like my Ibanez trem says "Licensed Under Floyd Rose Patents" - it was not manufactured by Floyd Rose. Sometimes the other way around - that trem could be manufactured by Kahler, and they slap a Gibson logo on it. Maybe it's a special run? Does the ser# conform to typical Gibson numbering? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 81034536 is the serial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Only a few...uh, special, expensive Les Pauls had Kahler/Gibson branded Kahler Flyers on them. The Paul was an inexpensive version, so no, it didn't come with that stock. rct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Thanks, I have no idea to be honest. The price was right so I took a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) +1 to rct, makes a lot of sense. What about the Studio model though? http://www.justguitars.com.au/vintage-guitars-for-sale-classic-collectable-details/gibson-les-paul-studio-1983-rare-first-year-model-with-factory-kahler-tremolo/111/ Does the trem work well? If so, bonus! Edited June 8, 2020 by ghost_of_fl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Plays great. Im having fun learning how to use the trem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Judson said: Plays great. Im having fun learning how to use the trem. You move it up and down and the note/chord changes pitch. Edited June 8, 2020 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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'Scales Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: You move it up and down and the note/chord changes pitch. Oi! Yer giving away all the secrets! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 All these years I've been spinning it like a helicopter. 🤦♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, ghost_of_fl said: All these years I've been spinning it like a helicopter. 🤦♂️ That's on a Fender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Lol. Thanks for the tip!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) The Gibson "The Paul" also came as Version I and II's which were indicated on the trussrod cover. Coming with a variety of types of humbuckers and with relief on the contoured edges (kind of like an SG) including a few with sculpted tops. 21 hours ago, Judson said: Lol. Thanks for the tip!! The Kahler 2200 tremolo built for Gibson was first produced in 85, so this 84 "The Paul" most likely had it installed later. Also note that the Kahler 2200 required some material to be removed from the guitar to allow a little space for the cam-fulcrum and 2 springs. So there is a small hogged out area in the wood under the tremolo. These original Gibson/Kahler tremolos can sell used for around $300 and up depending on condition. Note: these original Gibson/Kahler tremolos seem to be very desirable. Edited June 9, 2020 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 I don’t know a lot about trems but I seem to have stumbled on a good one. The guitar stay in tune even after extended use of the trem 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Those Kahler bridges are a solid bit of hardwear. This 80's one comes with a locking nut clamp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff jay Posted July 11, 2021 Report Share Posted July 11, 2021 I think that is my guitar from 1983. I had the tremolo put in and pick up switch moved. Any interest in selling? 214-790-9384 id love to see more photos but sure looks like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Now this is an interesting development!!🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 5:35 PM, Jeff jay said: I think that is my guitar from 1983. I had the tremolo put in and pick up switch moved. Any interest in selling? 214-790-9384 id love to see more photos but sure looks like it. When you get a phone call at 2:00 am with heavy breathing and fast slapping sounds, just tell Pepper to behave and it will stop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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