marco mancini Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Hello there American brothers i need your advice for a choice that i'm about to make but i still don't know well whether it's worthwhile as far as the construction quality ,how the guitar gets the final check and who assembled the guitars , is there so much difference to justify the money spent ? https://ibb.co/n1yC81y https://ibb.co/Lt0kwVZ thanks to everybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang Gang Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 In the open marketplace a Murphy aged LP Custom costs several thousand dollars more than a LP Standard. Personally, I am not a fan of "aged" guitars and wouldn't pay more for one. What is important is how they feel and sound. Can you play both of them and compare the two? If the aged one feels and sounds much better than the Standard then it might be worth it to you to make the switch, but that is a personal decision only you can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 LP Custom for me but they're both nice looking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Twang Gang said: In the open marketplace a Murphy aged LP Custom costs several thousand dollars more than a LP Standard. Personally, I am not a fan of "aged" guitars and wouldn't pay more for one. What is important is how they feel and sound. Can you play both of them and compare the two? If the aged one feels and sounds much better than the Standard then it might be worth it to you to make the switch, but that is a personal decision only you can make. Well i don't know if it is worthwhile to trade in my Usa Standard which they value at 1600 euros and pick up an ultra light aged custom adding 3.699 euros , i feel that are wasted money in fact i will not doing it , i will keep my Usa Standard for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Its your money. If you gotta have it and have the cash then do the deed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Which one sounds better? That would decide it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco mancini Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Its your money. If you gotta have it and have the cash then do the deed. Dear Pepper my problem is whether the 3500 euros that I would have to add is justified ,...... I mean in terms of construction techniques, woods, and people who assembly the guitars , for example my Luthier told me that the custom shop guitars are put together by in professional luthiers whereas the USA production is more industrial kind of one ,is that the case? Cheerio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 hours ago, marco mancini said: Dear Pepper my problem is whether the 3500 euros that I would have to add is justified ,...... I mean in terms of construction techniques, woods, and people who assembly the guitars , for example my Luthier told me that the custom shop guitars are put together by in professional luthiers whereas the USA production is more industrial kind of one ,is that the case? Cheerio No clue. Those others putting Gibsons together are pros too, cause they get paid to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 My understanding (right or wrong) is that the manufacture of Custom Shop models are overseen by luthiers. They don't build the guitar by themselves. They select the woods but this is for its looks/grain etc. They will certainly finish the set up etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, merciful-evans said: Which one sounds better? That would decide it for me. Rudi its always go with looks, and we all know that, stop with the logic. Then of course there is the huge price difference. One is worth maybe over 2.5 k and one is over 6+k (I think that is what the Muprh aged ones are going for). Edited November 27, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 55 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Rudi its always go with looks, and we all know that, stop with the logic. Then of course there is the huge price difference. One is worth maybe over 2.5 k and one is over 6+k (I think that is what the Muprh aged ones are going for). Yes, aesthetics are the downfall of all of us. I made a bid for credibility. I do that sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 As an owner of a Custom Shop LP myself, my opinion is that you are dealing with diminishing returns here. It’s hard to say whether it’s worth the money or not because that depends on your budget and opinion of the individual instruments in question. You sorta have to answer that part yourself. What I can say for sure is that spending 3x the amount of money does not get you a guitar that’s 3x better than a Les Paul Standard. A Custom Shop Gibson will only be marginally “better” than a Gibson USA equivalent (if at all). I can fairly say that my Custom Shop LP blows away all of my other guitars in all aspects (including price 😲). The electronics, fretwork, wood, finish, you name it.. it’s all as good as you can possibly get. Not 3x better, but a Gibson USA is already an excellent guitar, any Custom Shop improvements will naturally be relatively small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) since you've asked. those "Murphy Labs" models (this is just my opinion) are insanely overpriced. I'd keep what I got. I'm a sucker for cherry burst standards anyway. Edited November 28, 2022 by kidblast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 hours ago, kidblast said: since you've asked. those "Murphy Labs" models (this is just my opinion) are insanely overpriced. Before PC policing was a thing, there was a decades old tradition of Irish jokes in the uk. I cant remove the stereotype from my head that that 'Murphy' is a clod. So when I hear or read 'Murphy Labs' I envision a clod in a white lab coat holding a bit of sandpaper. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang Gang Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 11/28/2022 at 12:02 PM, merciful-evans said: I envision a clod in a white lab coat holding a bit of sandpaper. Not too far off from reality - but you have to hand it to the guy, he's convinced a lot of people that what he does requires a huge amount of skill and finesse. Personally I don't buy it, or the guitars either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Twang Gang said: Not too far off from reality - but you have to hand it to the guy, he's convinced a lot of people that what he does requires a huge amount of skill and finesse. Personally I don't buy it, or the guitars either. It takes skill to take an icepick to a guitar, and drag it behind a car for a mile on a rope. You don't just learn these things over night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Real men don't eat quiche or buy fake aged guitars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) On 11/28/2022 at 12:02 PM, merciful-evans said: Before PC policing was a thing, there was a decades old tradition of Irish jokes in the uk. I cant remove the stereotype from my head that that 'Murphy' is a clod. So when I hear or read 'Murphy Labs' I envision a clod in a white lab coat holding a bit of sandpaper. and a hammer and a length of chain... they call it "distressing!" Edited December 6, 2022 by kidblast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 12:28 AM, SteveFord said: Real men don't eat quiche or buy fake aged guitars. I didn't know about the quiche. I had some last Sunday. It used to be called 'flan' in the uk. It sounds a bit more working class anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Men_Don't_Eat_Quiche It's a quick read and is really funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SteveFord said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Men_Don't_Eat_Quiche It's a quick read and is really funny. Last I checked Quiche is just a fancy name for egg pie. Cause that is what it is. Eggs cooked in a pie crust with usually a meat and or vegetables in it. I like pie and I like eggs. I make quiche from scratch minus the crust cause I don’t like making pie dough. I guess now I’m gonna have to sit to pee. Edited December 7, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 11:16 PM, Sgt. Pepper said: I guess now I’m gonna have to sit to pee. Don't. #1 Splash back #2 Squirt escape (floor) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NighthawkChris Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 For the record anyone trading a Murphy for a Standard of modern days I’ll do it. No brainer, I’m definitely going to make a profit if I don’t like the guitar. And the Murphy is probably a good guitar minus the fake aging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorcitychick Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I love your Les Paul Custom. I would keep that bad boy. I am not fond of the Murphy guitars. I feel a Gibson is a work of art and there shouldn't be any dings or scratches on them. Gibson guitars are so pretty to look at and they sound fantastic! If someone was to give me a Murphy lightly relic Les Paul Lemon Burst. I would take it in a heart beat. I just can not afford the pricing on those guitars, so I have to tell myself not to like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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