Did you guys try Chat GPT?

[gdecantoo]

  I could tell it was fake right away!

The padding is on the wrong side of the pole for London traffic!😁

[Whitefang]

15 hours ago, gdecantoo said:

  I could tell it was fake right away!

The padding is on the wrong side of the pole for London traffic!😁

If it was meant for the CARS it would be, Einstein.  🙄

Whitefang

[gdecantoo]

It was meant for people with a sense of humor, Grumpy. 🫢

[Whitefang]

21 hours ago, gdecantoo said:

It was meant for people with a sense of humor, Grumpy. 🫢

So was my response, stodgy.  

Whitefang

[badbluesplayer]

It's not buying this -

Me:  Did the Fender Telecaster guitar define the soundtrack of American Baby Boomers' youth?

Chatmaster:  

The Fender Telecaster guitar certainly played a significant role in shaping the sound of American music in the 1950s and 1960s, which was the era of the Baby Boomers. As one of the first solid-body electric guitars, the Telecaster was instrumental in the development of rock and roll, country, and other popular music genres.

Artists such as Buddy Holly, James Burton, and Roy Buchanan helped popularize the Telecaster's distinctive twangy sound, and it became a go-to instrument for many musicians of the era. The Telecaster's versatility and durability also made it a favorite of working musicians, who could rely on it for everything from rockabilly to blues to surf music.

So while it's difficult to say whether any one guitar "defined" the soundtrack of an entire generation, the Telecaster certainly played a major role in shaping the music that Baby Boomers grew up with and continue to enjoy today.

[badbluesplayer]

Holy moly - I've wondered this ever since high school and I never knew.  This thing's pretty smart!

Me:  Why is the formula for the circumference of a circle equal to the derivative of the formula for the area of a circle?

Chatmaster:

The formula for the circumference of a circle is C = 2πr, where r is the radius of the circle. The formula for the area of a circle is A = πr^2.

To see why the circumference formula is equal to the derivative of the area formula, we can differentiate the area formula with respect to r:

dA/dr = d/dx (πr^2) = 2πr

This means that the derivative of the area formula is equal to 2πr, which is the same as the formula for the circumference of a circle.

In other words, the derivative of the area formula gives us the rate at which the area of a circle changes with respect to changes in its radius. This rate of change happens to be equal to the circumference of the circle.

This relationship between the circumference and area of a circle is not a coincidence, but rather a fundamental property of circles. It is a consequence of the fact that the circumference of a circle is the derivative of the area of a circle with respect to its radius.

Edited April 18, 2023 by badbluesplayer

[badbluesplayer]

Now I'm just messing with it -

Me :  Does that same principle explain the relationship between the formulae for surface area and volume of a sphere?

Chattronic:  

No, the principle of the derivative does not directly explain the relationship between the formulas for the surface area and volume of a sphere.

The formula for the surface area of a sphere is A = 4πr^2, where r is the radius of the sphere. The formula for the volume of a sphere is V = (4/3)πr^3.

While there is a relationship between the surface area and volume of a sphere, it is not a derivative relationship like the one between the area and circumference of a circle. However, the surface area and volume of a sphere are related in that they both depend on the radius of the sphere.

For example, if you increase the radius of a sphere, both the surface area and volume will increase, but they will increase at different rates. The surface area will increase at a rate proportional to r^2, while the volume will increase at a rate proportional to r^3.

This relationship between the surface area and volume of a sphere is important in many fields, such as physics and chemistry, where spheres are often used to model particles or objects.

[merciful-evans]

Was William Shakespeare a contemporary of William Byrd?

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[Sheepdog1969]

Read an interesting article the other day by a university professor who was able to determine which students were using Chat GPT to write their assignments by looking up the "citations" listed in said assignments. He stated that Chat GPT "citations", more often than not, were FAKE, (including non existent internet addresses/links),  and/or could not be independently corroborated.

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/busted-professor-flushing-students-use-chatgpt

AI, like Chat GPT, uses the Internet (presumably as much of the net it has access to), as it's "truth/fact" foundation. It currently has no "real world" experience that would allow it to "weed out" data which most of us would immediately understand as false, parody, comedy and/or contextually inaccurate/incomplete. (If most of us read an internet article that said that a "dropped object" falls upwards, we would understand, from personal experience/observation, that said statement was false.) Yes, AI may be able to recognize that the vast majority of internet content regarding "dropped objects" contradict said article, and thus may disregard said "outlier", but what if one were to simply post volumes of internet content (by bot or otherwise) that stated "dropped objects fall upwards"?  How much false internet content, regarding any subject, does it take to effect AI's "belief system"? How much "weight" does AI/Chat GPT assign to Wikipedia? (You know, the online "dictionary" that allows anyone to define anything?) Simply based on the volume of online content posted since 2016, including content posted by 90%+ of US media about it, AI/Chat GPT would accept "Trump-Russia Collusion" as fact, despite it being proven as a lie. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence understands that, just because you saw it online, does not mean it's true. Again, if AI's like Chat GPT only have the content existing on the internet as the knowledge base which forms their definition of "fact", AI is being "educated" by people you wouldn't trust to wash your car. Critical Thinking skills are vitally important for .basic human problem solving ability and similarly, humanity's ability to differentiate fact from fiction. The lack there of, especially within our youngest generations, is of great concern to those who understand humanity's reliance upon rational, independent, and factually educated thought processes from/by each new generation who inevitably will be responsible for civilized existence. The ability of the human beings responsible for programming AI, to somehow endow it with "Critical Thinking" skills based upon the "real world" realities of human existence, the physical laws of our universe and planet, and the basic educational instruction each human is taught from the experiences of our forefathers, will determine AI's true worth to humanity.   

[IanHenry]

13 minutes ago, Sheepdog1969 said:

Read an interesting article the other day by a university professor who was able to determine which students were using Chat GPT to write their assignments by looking up the "citations" listed in said assignments. He stated that Chat GPT "citations", more often than not, were FAKE, (including non existent internet addresses/links),  and/or could not be independently corroborated.

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/busted-professor-flushing-students-use-chatgpt

AI, like Chat GPT, uses the Internet (presumably as much of the net it has access to), as it's "truth/fact" foundation. It currently has no "real world" experience that would allow it to "weed out" data which most of us would immediately understand as false, parody, comedy and/or contextually inaccurate/incomplete. (If most of us read an internet article that said that a "dropped object" falls upwards, we would understand, from personal experience/observation, that said statement was false.) Yes, AI may be able to recognize that the vast majority of internet content regarding "dropped objects" contradict said article, and thus may disregard said "outlier", but what if one were to simply post volumes of internet content (by bot or otherwise) that stated "dropped objects fall upwards"?  How much false internet content, regarding any subject, does it take to effect AI's "belief system"? How much "weight" does AI/Chat GPT assign to Wikipedia? (You know, the online "dictionary" that allows anyone to define anything?) Simply based on the volume of online content posted since 2016, including content posted by 90%+ of US media about it, AI/Chat GPT would accept "Trump-Russia Collusion" as fact, despite it being proven as a lie. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence understands that, just because you saw it online, does not mean it's true. Again, if AI's like Chat GPT only have the content existing on the internet as the knowledge base which forms their definition of "fact", AI is being "educated" by people you wouldn't trust to wash your car. Critical Thinking skills are vitally important for .basic human problem solving ability and similarly, humanity's ability to differentiate fact from fiction. The lack there of, especially within our youngest generations, is of great concern to those who understand humanity's reliance upon rational, independent, and factually educated thought processes from/by each new generation who inevitably will be responsible for civilized existence. The ability of the human beings responsible for programming AI, to somehow endow it with "Critical Thinking" skills based upon the "real world" realities of human existence, the physical laws of our universe and planet, and the basic educational instruction each human is taught from the experiences of our forefathers, will determine AI's true worth to humanity.   

That all makes good sense because obviously, the program isn't smart enough to differentiate between fact and fiction at this point.   

[Sheepdog1969]

1 minute ago, IanHenry said:

That all makes good sense because obviously, the program isn't smart enough to differentiate between fact and fiction at this point.   

I am currently posting everywhere I can that I am the most handsome, most intelligent, and most desirable human on the planet, in hopes that Chat GPT or any other AI, will believe that and find me a date. 

[Pinch]

27 minutes ago, Farnsbarns said:

ChatGPT is nothing more than a generative pre-trained transformer. All it ever does is predict the next word. It knows absolutely nothing. 

Next thing you know, it tries to kill Sarah Connor. 

Edited June 9, 2023 by Pinch

[Sheepdog1969]

49 minutes ago, Farnsbarns said:

We have an AI which is linked at the end of our investor pitch deck which will answer questions about the investment prospect. I am VERY confident in it (although obviously we have a disclaimer). It's showing off, demonstrating ability and making the pitch much more memorable, of course. 

Are you referring to AI Marketing applications, used to "sell" investment opportunities in your AI company to potential clients/financial investors in response to their questions asked in the "chat" section of your website? Or, are you referring to predictive Stock Market valuations, for specific publicly traded stocks, that are AI generated?

[Whitefang]

This all reminds me of an old joke from the days when computers were still a generally unknown technology.....

All the world's top electronic  engineers and computer experts got together for a project to build the world's first "super computer".  when it was completed it covered the area of a city block and was five stories high.  All the top scientists, physicists, physicians, zoologists, botanists, literary figures, theologians and the brightest minds from every known science, engineering and medical field were called in to program everything they knew and all the information from every textbook on every known field of education into the computer.  It took most of a year.  And when it was complete, the head of the project went to the keyboard and typed in this question:  "Is there a God?"

The computer started humming with thousands of lights blinking frantically and beeping rapidly.  Withing a minute a ticker tape emitted from the machine with it's answer;

"There is now!"  

Whitefang

 

[jdgm]

5 hours ago, Whitefang said:

This all reminds me of an old joke from the days when computers were still a generally unknown technology.....

All the world's top electronic  engineers and computer experts got together for a project to build the world's first "super computer".  when it was completed it covered the area of a city block and was five stories high.  All the top scientists, physicists, physicians, zoologists, botanists, literary figures, theologians and the brightest minds from every known science, engineering and medical field were called in to program everything they knew and all the information from every textbook on every known field of education into the computer.  It took most of a year.  And when it was complete, the head of the project went to the keyboard and typed in this question:  "Is there a God?"

The computer started humming with thousands of lights blinking frantically and beeping rapidly.  Withing a minute a ticker tape emitted from the machine with it's answer;

"There is now!"  

Whitefang

 

Remember the Arthur C Clarke short story  "The 9 Billion Names of God"?

 

[badbluesplayer]

It seems like ChatGPT is challenged when you ask it stuff where it's supposed to use some smarts to figure out what you're saying.  People say a speaker is essentially an electric motor.  It contains a motor element, the voice coil and that stuff, so I'd say it's a motor hooked up to a voice coil.  It uses electricity and produces mechanical motion and sound waves.  Pretty simple.  ChatGPT doesn't seem to be so sure.

So I ask it this -

Q:  Is a loudspeaker an electric motor?

A:  

No, a loudspeaker is not an electric motor, although it does contain a motor as one of its components. A loudspeaker is an electroacoustic transducer that converts electrical signals into sound waves. It typically consists of several components, including a diaphragm (also known as a speaker cone), a voice coil, a magnet, and a frame.

The electric motor component of a loudspeaker is called the voice coil. The voice coil is a coil of wire that is attached to the diaphragm. When an electrical current flows through the voice coil, it interacts with the magnetic field produced by the magnet, causing the coil and the attached diaphragm to move back and forth. This motion of the diaphragm generates sound waves, producing the audible output from the loudspeaker.

However, it's important to note that while a loudspeaker contains a motor, it is not typically referred to as an electric motor itself. The primary function of an electric motor is to convert electrical energy into mechanical motion, whereas a loudspeaker's purpose is to convert electrical signals into sound waves.

Q: Is a loudspeaker essentially an electric motor?

A:  

No, a loudspeaker is not an electric motor, although it does contain a motor as one of its components. A loudspeaker is an electroacoustic transducer that converts electrical signals into sound waves. It typically consists of several components, including a diaphragm (also known as a speaker cone), a voice coil, a magnet, and a frame.

The electric motor component of a loudspeaker is called the voice coil... (Blah, blah, repeating stuff.)

Q:  Why would somebody say that a loudspeaker is essentially an electric motor?

It's possible that someone may refer to a loudspeaker as essentially an electric motor due to the fact that a loudspeaker contains a motor component and the motor-like movement of the voice coil. Here are a few reasons why someone might make such a statement:

1. Simplification: They might be simplifying the explanation by focusing on the motor component and its movement, highlighting the similarities between the voice coil in a loudspeaker and a traditional electric motor. This simplified view can help in explaining the basic principle of how a loudspeaker converts electrical signals into sound waves.

2. Analogous Function: Both electric motors and loudspeakers involve the conversion of energy. An electric motor converts electrical energy into mechanical motion, while a loudspeaker converts electrical energy into sound waves. By drawing an analogy between the two, someone may choose to emphasize the motor-like behavior of the voice coil in a loudspeaker.

3. Conceptual Association: Electric motors are a well-known technology, and people may draw parallels between the familiar concept of an electric motor and the less familiar concept of a loudspeaker. Associating a loudspeaker with an electric motor can help people grasp the basic idea of how a loudspeaker operates.

While referring to a loudspeaker as essentially an electric motor might be a simplified or conceptual association, it's important to recognize that a loudspeaker serves a distinct purpose in audio reproduction and has additional components beyond the motor.

Edited June 14, 2023 by badbluesplayer

[badbluesplayer]

Sometimes, the thing is just dopey.  How about this?

Q:  If I play in a blues band, should I put one foot up on a monitor like metal heads do?

A:

Whether or not you should put one foot up on a monitor while playing in a blues band is a matter of personal preference and style. It's not limited to metal heads; musicians from various genres have used this stage presence technique to engage with the audience and add flair to their performance.

In blues music, the focus is typically on expressing emotions and creating a soulful atmosphere. While it may not be as common to see blues musicians adopting the same high-energy stage movements as metal musicians, there is still room for individual expression.

Ultimately, it's up to you to decide how you want to present yourself on stage. If putting one foot up on a monitor feels natural and enhances your stage presence, then go for it. Just remember that authenticity and sincerity in your performance are often key in blues music, so make sure your stage movements align with the overall tone and mood of the music.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Who typed this? Cause it has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard compared. An electric motor and a speaker are nothing a like. Well they do both use electricity. I think that's about it.

Conceptual Association: Electric motors are a well-known technology, and people may draw parallels between the familiar concept of an electric motor and the less familiar concept of a loudspeaker. Associating a loudspeaker with an electric motor can help people grasp the basic idea of how a loudspeaker operates.

[Pinch]

54 minutes ago, badbluesplayer said:

Sometimes, the thing is just dopey.  How about this?

Q:  If I play in a blues band, should I put one foot up on a monitor like metal heads do?

A:

Whether or not you should put one foot up on a monitor while playing in a blues band is a matter of personal preference and style. It's not limited to metal heads; musicians from various genres have used this stage presence technique to engage with the audience and add flair to their performance.

In blues music, the focus is typically on expressing emotions and creating a soulful atmosphere. While it may not be as common to see blues musicians adopting the same high-energy stage movements as metal musicians, there is still room for individual expression.

Ultimately, it's up to you to decide how you want to present yourself on stage. If putting one foot up on a monitor feels natural and enhances your stage presence, then go for it. Just remember that authenticity and sincerity in your performance are often key in blues music, so make sure your stage movements align with the overall tone and mood of the music.

🙄

[Whitefang]

34 minutes ago, Farnsbarns said:

A speaker literally is an electric motor. It may be linear but it IS a motor. (a device that converts potential to motion).

I'm not an electronics or electrical expert, but I have trouble reconciling the idea of a speaker converting something to motion.

Unless you refer to dance music coming out of the speaker causing people to gravitate. 

Whitefang

[Sgt. Pepper]

1 hour ago, Farnsbarns said:

A speaker literally is an electric motor. It may be linear but it IS a motor. (a device that converts potential to motion).

No no its not. A motor has a spinning shaft, and a speaker makes sound come out of it. Next time a motor of yours goes t-its up, buy a speaker instead and see if it fixes your problem. I'm gonna say with 100% certainty it won't. The only motion a speaker does is the cone will vibrate when sound comes out of it. 

Another stupid thing I heard when we were taking off from O'Hare Airport. The guy in the seat across from me said "hey we are flying over Lake Superior". Nope that's Lake Michigan. I lived just North of there for a year at the Naval Station. 

Speaker:

Motor:

Almost the same huh?

Edited June 15, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper

[Sgt. Pepper]

4 minutes ago, Farnsbarns said:

You've heard of a linear motor, right? Not all motors make rotary motion.

If not, don't worry, a speaker is a great example of a linear motor. 

It just means that the motion is linear. Move the armature back and forth, linearly, with a cone attached, and you vibrate air. That makes sound. 

Yes I have. Next time my ceiling fan stops working. I'll drop a speaker instead. Motors do make noise when turning so I see the similarity.

A Speaker does not create torque like a motor does. That is why speakers are not used to turn fans, conveyer belts and most stuff in industrial factory's.

Edited June 15, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper

[Sgt. Pepper]

Just now, Farnsbarns said:

Linear motors don't make torque, their motion is linear. A great example of this is a speaker. 

Nothing on the YT vid looks like a speaker.

The stuff I worked with was industrial motors on ships and on the rail road and at NASA. And never did we use one with the intent to play Sabbath Bloody Sabbath out of it.

Edited June 15, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper

[Sgt. Pepper]

3 hours ago, Farnsbarns said:

That one's not a speaker.

Are you serious here. I thought you studied electrical engineering of some sort. You really can't see that a speaker coil moving back and forth in the field of a permanent magnet attached to a cone to make sound is fundamentally a simple use case for a linear motor?

 

Edit. I just got a moment to look at your video. That's not even a linear motor. It's a linear actuator that uses a rotating motor with a worm to create linear motion. 

 

I am not an EE. I’m a Maintenance Electrician. Which means I fix stuff (electrical) that breaks. I have a BS in Liberal Arts, but I’m not a liberal. In no way shape or form is a linear motor a speaker. I’ve been an electrician for the last 35 years. Worked on motors, generators, fiber optics’s, control systems, comms systems, alarm systems, 440 vac 3 phase systems, DC variable speed drives, actuators, steering systems and so on. If your an engineer I now get it. I worked at NASA and some of the guys with Ph.d’s could not understand the concept of slip on shoes. Wait I just slip my foot in? It can’t be that easy? No 10 page math problem to solve before I make an attempt to slip the shoe on? 
But to end this I’ll just submit and say you win.

Edited June 15, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper

[badbluesplayer]

17 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

I am not an EE. I’m a Maintenance Electrician. Which means I fix stuff (electrical) that breaks. I have a BS in Liberal Arts, but I’m not a liberal. In no way shape or form is a linear motor a speaker. I’ve been an electrician for the last 35 years. Worked on motors, generators, fiber optics’s, control systems, comms systems, alarm systems, 440 vac 3 phase systems, DC variable speed drives, actuators, steering systems and so on. If your an engineer I now get it. I worked at NASA and some of the guys with Ph.d’s could not understand the concept of slip on shoes. Wait I just slip my foot in? It can’t be that easy? No 10 page math problem to solve before I make an attempt to slip the shoe on? 
But to end this I’ll just submit and say you win.

You'll argue about anything.  I just asked the question because it's something complicated enough to challenge chatGPT, and you go and immediately start whining about what's right and wrong like a nincompoop with an on/off switch for a brain.

I'm a P.E., O.K.?  You know what that is.  I did the structural design of about two hundred buildings, a hundred miles of road and all kinds of other ignorant stuff like bridges, water and sewer systems, pump stations, dams, other stuff that stupid people do and put their seal on it.  O.K. with you so far?  Or is what I'm saying stupid? 

Man, you need to get back to school or shutup.  Engineers are running the world and they will until we're all dead and gone.

You need to tell me how to convert a flourescent light to LED and keep the dynamics classes to yourself.