rocketman Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Answer: He still proves that he's one of the best drummers ever!! I've posted this before but I think it's good to have a reminder once in a while. Peart's idol is Buddy Rich who was a famous jazz drummer. Peart is very humble about his playing and always states that he'll never be as good as Buddy. The important lessons here are to 1) never think you're good enough, and 2) get outside of your comfort zone and listen to all kinds of music. Here's Neil at the Buddy Rich Memorial Concert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47yxLg2RyXM Here he is with his full set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHkucr1jJpQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 My all time favorite drummer! Thanks man :D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 thats great, but why does he have 2 washing machines running during his solo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringostarr Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 thqats great, but why does he have 1 washing machines running during his solo? I've always heard that Geddy's "jab" at bands that have giant walls of speaker cabs behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 my bad, my spelling is nasty today, I needa sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The best drummer I worked with, whom I did work with over a 20 year timeline, used a jazz 4/5 piece set.........With a cowbell of course, and a bong, and other drummer stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brundaddy Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Here's Buddy Rich, with twice as much style and half as many cymbals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I like neal better of the small set he overdose the layered tones to much when he uses everything, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPguitarman Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Neil is hands down the best drummer in my book ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOL! Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 This made me grind my teeth. Neil Peart - Amazing rock drummer with killer chops, but he is not a jazz/swing drummer. STOP POUNDING THAT KIT. This is not a rock show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Tried to watch but found myself needing to hit the bathroom and grab a beer at the bar for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 This made me grind my teeth. Neil Peart - Amazing rock drummer with killer chops, but he is not a jazz/swing drummer. STOP POUNDING THAT KIT. This is not a rock show. Yep and he'd be the first one to agree with you. This is done back in 1992 and this is what he said about it: "And yet...I still had a nagging feeling that when I played in that style, I was just imitating it, not really feeling it properly. As the old Duke Ellington standard goes, 'It dont mean a thing, if it aint got that swing', and I didnt think I did." I found some more recent Peart jazz playings and wow does he nail it now. For some reason they aren't on the web anymore. He's come a long way. My point is that he refuses to stop learning. He could just say "ok, I'm the best rock drummer and I'll stop there." But he always wants to get better. This is the sign of a true genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOL! Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 He's come a long way. My point is that he refuses to stop learning. He could just say "ok, I'm the best rock drummer and I'll stop there." But he always wants to get better. This is the sign of a true genius. I would call that more dedication than genius, but either way you have to tip your hat to him for being that progressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 I just noticed that your posting count is 2112. That's cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Technique, feel, and lack of ego? That's Gene Krupa in my book. talk about being in the pocket with the Bass Player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 That was incredible. He didn't miss a beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOL! Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Technique, feel, and lack of ego? That's Gene Krupa in my book. talk about being in the pocket with the Bass Player... Damn! That is sick. Mr. Krupa was one bad MoFo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Technique, feel, and lack of ego? That's Gene Krupa in my book. talk about being in the pocket with the Bass Player... As Evol and I were discussing yesterday, its hard to find a drummer and bass player who are willing and enjoy playing in the pocket. It doesn't mean they suck, but they "know their place" for lack of a better term. I hate hate HATE when players (especially guitarists) just wank around insulting the song and all the good it stands for. Gene Krupa is an amazing drummer and he isn't all flashy about it. THAT'S the definition of a musician in my books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Drums were always my favorite part of Swing Music, and Gene defined that genre. Fred, I know what you mean about drummers who don't know their place. Or guitarists for that matter. Musicians that are on stage to service themselves as opposed to the songs they're playing just bug me. Specially originals, so many original bands have a 45 minute set of songs that sound identical because the musicians are using their entire bag of tricks in every song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 My piano instructor told me that the notes you don't play are just as important as the ones you do play. Count Basie was a master of this concept. I finally got that concept playing piano, but I'm not good enough to get it playing guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Technique, feel, and lack of ego? That's Gene Krupa in my book. I have an old vinyl of Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich playing together from a recording of "Jazz at the Philharmonic" from 1952. Most of the album features GK's trio with a sprinkling of absolute giants of Jazz - Ella Fitzgerald and the like. I have never heard drumming on a par with what is on that album. The closing track is a lengthy impro. after Buddy Rich joins everyone on stage and the drummers swap 'verses' People argue endlessly (oh yes they do!) about whether GK or BR outperforms the other...If you get a chance to listen to it, it really is rewarding. My copy is called, simply, "The Drum Battle". I'm not saying whose style I preferred and, in any case, I'm no drummer. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I have an old vinyl of Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich playing together from a recording of "Jazz at the Philharmonic" from 1952. Most of the album features GK's trio with a sprinkling of absolute giants of Jazz - Ella Fitzgerald and the like. I have never heard drumming on a par with what is on that album. The closing track is a lengthy impro. after Buddy Rich joins everyone on stage and the drummers swap 'verses' People argue endlessly (oh yes they do!) about whether GK or BR outperforms the other...If you get a chance to listen to it, it really is rewarding. My copy is called, simply, "The Drum Battle". I'm not saying whose style I preferred and, in any case, I'm no drummer. P. I'd like to hear that. The old vs. the new LOL. I feel when you get to that level there is no Best. Maybe better nights or better performances, but great is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 I have an old vinyl of Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich playing together from a recording of "Jazz at the Philharmonic" from 1952. Most of the album features GK's trio with a sprinkling of absolute giants of Jazz - Ella Fitzgerald and the like. I think Oscar Peterson is on that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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