Desolationrow Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 ll hog guitars Hi guys, im singer songwriter, only strumming and accompaiment. i hear about all mahogany guitars are good for that purpose.my guitars are all spruce top.opinions?recommendations? thanks for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Desolationrow It really doesn't matter, in my humble opinion. I do not hold with any party, faction, or belief-system that assigns a higher grade for one style of playing to this wood, and another grade for some other style of playing to yet another brand of tree. It's all in your hands, and much of it is in your heart. Touch everything, play every type of guitar you can, and whenever possible, avoid buying sight-unseen from the internet. Okay, I'm gonna shut up now. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 ^ wisdom ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayoubengal1954 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Desolationrow It really doesn't matter, in my humble opinion. I do not hold with any party, faction, or belief-system that assigns a higher grade for one style of playing to this wood, and another grade for some other style of playing to yet another brand of tree. It's all in your hands, and much of it is in your heart. Touch everything, play every type of guitar you can, and whenever possible, avoid buying sight-unseen from the internet. Okay, I'm gonna shut up now. :unsure: Oh, great. It depends on me? I wanted it to be the guitar! Seriously, I agree with what you say. To the OP, play as many different varieties of woods and guitar shapes/sizes as you can. You'll know what works for you. I have a number of different guitars with different qualities because I'm a big nerd about it. But it still is up to me to make the sounds I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'll join the club here, as well. It's the player, not the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Desolationrow It really doesn't matter, in my humble opinion. I do not hold with any party, faction, or belief-system that assigns a higher grade for one style of playing to this wood, and another grade for some other style of playing to yet another brand of tree. It's all in your hands, and much of it is in your heart. Touch everything, play every type of guitar you can, and whenever possible, avoid buying sight-unseen from the internet. Okay, I'm gonna shut up now. :unsure: "I'll have one of what he's having." And agree w/ BayouBengal- because you can't appreciate vanilla without chocolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse_Dylan Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Although if you only have spruce tops now, it wouldn't hurt to get a mahogany... :) I'm currently trying to decide on one myself! I was really wanting an all-mahogany J-45, but they're pricy and hard to find. Thinking D-15 or the new Guild D-20 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Nothing wrong with appreciating/wanting a well-furnished stable. Same with horses, though my heart belongs to Thoroughbreds. Guitars or horses, they all love ya back in their own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I have a Martin D15. It's great for singing along to. It also has a warm and woody sound, without too much bass (like an HD28 sometimes does), and not too much Gibson Jangle either. It really is a great guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I have a Martin D15. It's great for singing along to. It also has a warm and woody sound, without too much bass (like an HD28 sometimes does), and not too much Gibson Jangle either. It really is a great guitar. Had to laugh when I read this - you just nailed the reasons I disliked the one I owned. The warm and woody was tolerable, but the muffled bass and lack of ring from the treble strings wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I haven't heard this "hog better for vocal" stuff before, but I guess it's inevitable that every wood type or brand will at least spend some time in the spotlight of what people say. The real truth is, what works better for vocal accopaniment has as much to do with what YOUR voice sounds like as it does with the guitar and it's sound. All this opinion of a guy who can't, and doesn't sing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Hey Deso, I'm no expert, but am a bit of a guitar nerd. I've never heard the "all-mahogany is better for singers" idea before.Generally speaking, an all-mahogany guitar will have a different sound than the same guitar with a spruce top. Some people hear that difference as "dull," others as "warm." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I pretty much go with the opinions already expressed that it really doesn't matter much. People (myself included) get too caught-up in all the talk about which tone wood is best for this music or that song, etc. We debate spruce tops, Adi spruce tops, torrifieds spruce tops, cedar tops, redwood tops, and on and on. Bottom line for me is that they all sound like guitars. Aside from infrequent examples, I don't think there is a "day and night" difference in tones. I can detect a tone difference between my walnut J100 and my Hummingbird, but in all sincerity, it's not that huge and one is not better than another. They both sound like guitars sound. It's not like you hear one tone and say "sure can't use that for country." (although it is universally known that a Taylor of any tone wood cannot be used for Johnny Cash music).........To the initial subject of all hog guitars. When I first got my Alvaraz AF66CESHB (sounds like one of those Martin names) I thought it sounded different from all my other guitars, because it's all mahogany. Then, after a couple weeks it sounded like all my other guitars: like a guitar. I figure if you get a decent guitar to start with.....and that guitar is "user friendly" for you and kind of speaks your language and calls your name---all the other peripheral stuff will fall-in-place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 In all fairness to mahogany top guitars, and they've been around in various incarnations for many years, not all of them conform to the sort of response we tend to associate with Martin's current 15-series instruments. My Stromberg-Voisenet parlor guitar, Gibson LG-0 models I've owned in the past, hog top banner J-45s that it has been my good fortune to play, original Martin 15/17 models, and I'll bet most of us could keep the list rolling, are all unique unto themselves. And all of 'em, budget Harmony models from the 1950s and 1960s included, sound like guitars. Missouri is correct and I, for one, applaud his articulation. My distaste for the current Martin line of 15's stems mostly from an unwillingness to pay over $1000 for something that even at its best will sound to me like it's in dire need of fresh strings. Just me - consider the source and move on! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 It doesn't matter what type of wood is used for any particular type/style of playing. I can't believe this. Try throwing that out in a grasser forum and you'll get laughed out. Of course there's personal tastes, but what is generally considered the best choice of tone woods for some certain styles of playing can be very exacting. Grassers are notoriously picky. Jazz players: Look at the wood differences between nylon string jazzers and steel string jazzers. It would be pretty hard to find nylon string jazzer with a spruce top and maple sides. Regarding OP all hog - I very much appreciate all hog. Just like anything, there are plenty of gems to be found that sound great (not muffled, with ring) - but you've got to find them. Go out a play some - see if you like what you're hearing. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just like anything, there are plenty of gems to be found that sound great (not muffled, with ring) - but you've got to find them. Go out a play some - see if like what you're hearing. . I'm pretty sure that's what I said, Big Kahune. Only I used slightly different vowels and consonants is all. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I just bought one of these (Custom Shop 00015 SM Cutaway)..I had a 1931 017 for awhile. Sold it and have jumped into the hog pool again. Just a more recent one..Have not yet received it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 . @Jannus - That's a beauty. Cool slot head. Love the pyramid bridge and cutaway. Here's my hog 00015M - it's an Elderly 40th anniversary version with ebony fretboard and bridge, and a hog J12-15M . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I had always read that Mahogany top guitars were best for country blues fingerpicking.... So I have had a few all Mahogany guitars! But the cream is my 1944 Martin 0-17, last of the wartime scalloped braced - last week I posted a track I recorded with it: https://soundcloud.com/bk7-3/alberta777 BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I've picked up two all hogs recently. LG-2 and an a special run for a local store Alvarez Parlor. The LG2 did not come with the Dorito chip. I added that myself. I use that pick to measure the nut width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbiii Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Here are some old ones. 1925 Martin 0-18K 1943 Martin 00-17 1942 LG-1 Gibson Let,s pick, -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 . @Jannus - That's a beauty. Cool slot head. Love the pyramid bridge and cutaway. Here's my hog 00015M - it's an Elderly 40th anniversary version with ebony fretboard and bridge, and a hog J12-15M . Gorgeous! I'd love to hear that 12 string! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie King Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 It is great seeing all of the pictures of all mahogany guitars. I've got a Larivee all hog and warm. OM 12 fret so it is sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The one thing "missing" from my stable is a cutaway. I have thought hard about adding the new Martin OMC 15E cutaway. I dont have the room for it, and I dont want to lose any of the four guitars I am rotating through all the time, so I have stayed on the sidelines. But Dayummmmm, I think that would be my perfect gigging guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacamartin Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 partial to Martin hogs....mid-range, soft spoken...but can get funky on demand. 000-15m, 0-15 custom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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