blindboygrunt Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Looks like the lacquer is falling off my guitar ... Sal is my picture helper ( thanks sal , owe you a beer) All seems well on the inside which I guess is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Which guitar, bbg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Thats one mother of a case bite or gouge... Would the appropriate repair be black laquer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars68 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Put some naphta on the crack a couple of times, then check the inside to see if it comes through. Best of luck with getting it fixed! Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 What the ? ? ? Did you take a look at the level of the bottle to see how far below the scratch you left on the label was? As Sal hinted, looks more like the one point of impact- could've caused a crack, but not only does it look too wide for dryness crack, but you've mentioned before how low humidity is not much of a problem for you. And yes, nice thing about repair in that area of the burst, the fade from brown to black sets you up for a decent repair, if you're feeling a repair is in order. Hope it was a happy St Patrick's day, nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Put some naphta on the crack a couple of times, then check the inside to see if it comes through. Best of luck with getting it fixed! Lars Ooh. Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 What the ? ? ? Did you take a look at the level of the bottle to see how far below the scratch you left on the label was? As Sal hinted, looks more like the one point of impact- could've caused a crack, but not only does it look too wide for dryness crack, but you've mentioned before how low humidity is not much of a problem for you. And yes, nice thing about repair in that area of the burst, the fade from brown to black sets you up for a decent repair, if you're feeling a repair is in order. Hope it was a happy St Patrick's day, nonetheless. Oh no I had no accident . There was always a little , er , line ? Trace? From when I had the guitar . But a week or so ago I guess the bit of lacquer fell out and I just looked one day and seen what your all seeing now This is not a sudden incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibson Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I got the same on the back of my J-45 TV,no impact either. I'll take a picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I go with it being a previously repaired crack that lived out it's days. Liquid like naptha will find it's way through regardless, but I think I'd let it sit a bit to see if it moves. If it's a previously repaired crack I'd humidify it before repairing it to see if it closes up a little. Weird, because that should be a sturdy area of the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Weird, man, , , there was a small line in the upper bout surface that suddenly became a huge scar making a piece of lacquer crack off !?! Even stranger than the 10th fret falling from Jinders Dove. What will be the next. . . Maybe give it some glue from below and a touch of black tusch. As I recall it the 45 already has a ding above the sound-hole. The guitar is becoming real now, , , like the relationship with its owner. . Rock on, good bbgrunt, don't crack up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibson Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 https://imgur.com/a/mouNP 3.5 inches nothing on the inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I am in love with your fretboard. Can we have a play date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drathbun Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Looks like a previous crack repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 I’m reasonably sure there was no previous crack repair . When I took it last year to get a set up and some fretwork done on it and the ‘split’ was merely a line in the lacquer ( not much different than the little ripple marks at the shoulders of most j45’s ) The luthier said he had had a look and it appears to be nothing really . Not worth worrying about My guess is that there was a little ding and then a little split has formed there with sods law in full force Then the ding has enabled the lacquer to fall off , then it has contracted back into proper order I think the split stretched a little over Christmas when the gas stove was lit in the living room. Little hygrometer didn’t go below 30 at any time though. But who knows I doubt I’ll send it anywhere or worry about it much. Because of where it is I’m thinkkng it can’t really turn into anything more than it is ? Right ? And what’s the flat slither of wood that is stuck to the top shown in the picture ? What’s that for ? Fortyyears- what’s special about the fretboard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Isn’t that brace called the popsicle brace? It’s most likely protected that crack from opening up any further, but with lower humidity it could make for the sound hole/rosette. Also- humidity levels in the 30s can be considered “you has been warned” range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 That bare wood spot on top... and the width of the gouge and nature of it... makes me think case bite... or a knock/dragalong into a music stand. Sorry BBG. You could fix it the way I fixed a top crack in my old 2005 Martin D15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 That bare wood spot on top... and the width of the gouge and nature of it... makes me think case bite... or a knock/dragalong into a music stand. Sorry BBG. You could fix it the way I fixed a top crack in my old 2005 Martin D15 Last time , it didn’t get a knock It hasn’t seen a case in Maybe 2 years. Lives on the stand in living room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Ok I need to read better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbasher Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It looks pretty far from the fretboard, but is that at the edge of the neck block? I used to keep a J-45 on a stand all the time. Until, I started to get finish cracks on the back and top, right at the edges of the neck and tail blocks. Humidity swings by me are pretty drastic between summers and winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just get a black texter pen and colour it in ...problem solved, you can buy me a pint later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just get a black texter pen and colour it in ...problem solved, you can buy me a pint later. I already did that after i took the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Wow Grunt,, that is crazy... BTW.. Stew Mac has Lacquer Pens (Nitro) they have about 10 different colors. Black being one. They are made for repairs JUST like this. They work good for drop and fill repairs. I've used them and they are easy to use and the BLACK one was a perfect match for the repair I did. (much smaller than yours, just the edg of a headstock got a little banged up and I wanted it properly sealed. not sure if you want to check em out, got to stew make and look for Color Tone Pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Wow Grunt,, that is crazy... BTW.. Stew Mac has Lacquer Pens (Nitro) they have about 10 different colors. Black being one. They are made for repairs JUST like this. They work good for drop and fill repairs. I've used them and they are easy to use and the BLACK one was a perfect match for the repair I did. (much smaller than yours, just the edg of a headstock got a little banged up and I wanted it properly sealed. not sure if you want to check em out, got to stew make and look for Color Tone Pens. Black sharpie did the trick 👍 Stewmac is great. But it’s in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Put a J-50 pickguard on there, and most of it will disappear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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