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Twiz

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No thanks for an aged/relic-ed guitar. I'm not knocking them though. -Just not my thing. I'll quote the reverend:

 

"Each guitar has its own character and personality, which can be magnified once the player engages in beatin' it up." - Billy F. Gibbons

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Californiaman

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No thanks for an aged/relic-ed guitar. I'm not knocking them though. -Just not my thing. I'll quote the reverend:

 

"Each guitar has its own character and personality' date=' which can be magnified once the player engages in beatin' it up." - Billy F. Gibbons[/quote']

 

The Reverend is always worth quotin'.

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Dub-T-123

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I'm with a couple of you guys saying that if it feels and sounds good and the price is right I'd be open minded. Why not.

 

Really though I'd rather make my own relic the old fashioned way. As soon as I get some cash, I'm in the market for a cheap used LP Special (double cut with p90s). I want an axe that I can throw around and beat the crap out of without worrying. A gigger and a backup.

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Riffster

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My R8 is a VOS and I don't care, I was not going to pay a few hundred more for a shiny guitar.

 

I don't clean my guitars much and this one hides the dirt better. [biggrin]

 

I don't understand the logic here, having a neat clean guitar that you have had for a long time actually makes you just as much of a poser than owning a relic. Just sayin'

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duane v

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You missed the point. It's not the bumps and dents. It's paying some guy thousands to do it.

 

No offense but that comment is dumb [biggrin]

 

You're kinda knocking somebodies artistic expression.

 

Though it's not something I would look for in a new guitar, but you cannot deny Mr Murphy's artistic effort, and the amount of hours it takes to do a convincing relic job on a instrument.

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ZenKen

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You're kidding....right? How am I knocking this great artist? I just expressed my opinion that paying thousands of dollars for someone, anyone, to beat up a perfectly good guitar is nutz. Now if he'd do it for free........... [cool]

 

BTW - Artistic expression...........[biggrin]:-k ;) [biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin] How's that for knockin?

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retrosurfer1959

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I don't really care either way I think they have a place - If somebody is on stage and doesn't want to use an original then fine - also makes since if your using them for decoration in a studio or office or somewhere then it's fine or if you just like that look fine, why should somebody have to wait twenty years. I don't think a guitar makes you a poser if you can't play and go buy a relic'd guitar and pretend to be somebody that can play then your a poser if you got the chops to back it up play whatever the hell you want.

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FirstMeasure

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My R8 is a VOS and I don't care' date=' I was not going to pay a few hundred more for a shiny guitar.

 

I don't clean my guitars much and this one hides the dirt better. [cool

 

I don't understand the logic here, having a neat clean guitar that you have had for a long time actually makes you just as much of a poser than owning a relic. Just sayin'

 

 

I didn't know Careful was synonymous with Poser. Eric Johnson is such a poser, his 57 Strat is in better shape than my '88.

 

This is really a '57 he's playing, not an RI or EJ Sig.

 

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Riffster

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I didn't know Careful was synonymous with Poser. Eric Johnson is such a poser' date=' his 57 Strat is in better shape than my '88.

 

This is really a '57 he's playing, not an RI or EJ Sig.[/quote']

 

he was not around in 1957 so he got a closet classic from somebody who did not wear out that guitar, he is careful with that one I guess, do you think he plays that one on the road a lot or is it one of 250 in the rotation?

 

If you have a few guitars and you play them regularly they will get banged up and worn out no matter how careful you are, it just happens.

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Gibson4life

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I actually would buy a reliced guitar, just as long as it's not overdone. I mean, some guitars look good with relicing, but some guitars on the market look like they've been throw on the ground, and abused. I'm sure many guitar players willing to pay 3,000-25,000 dollars for a guitar would like one that looks new, and not one that looks like a $100 junker. [biggrin]

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rockstar232007

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The ONLY thing I don't like about Tom Murphy's aging is the fact that he goes a little over the top when it comes to the headstock checking. Other than that, if you do a side-by-side comparison (which I have done), it's very hard to tell the real ones form the "aged", aside from a few vintage specs that you will never again see on any Gibson LPs.

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dleth

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Sure. Buy a brand new guitar and pay a couple extra thousand dollars to have some guy beat it up for you. Can you imagine going to your local Ford dealer and asking them to scratch and dent up that beautiful new Mustang convertible and offer them a few $$ to do it? Nutz I say. [biggrin]

 

I have a Mustang convertable. I'm with ya. Although I must admit that there is some aging on my R0.

 

Dave

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Tim Plains

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You missed the point. It's not the bumps and dents. It's paying some guy thousands to do it.

 

No offense but that comment is dumb [biggrin]

You're right' date=' [i']I[/i] missed the point. I want a Les Paul that looks like it's 50 years old; so, I'll guess I'll just fork out the $350,000 to get a real burst.

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Tim Plains

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My R8 is a VOS and I don't care' date=' I was not going to pay a few hundred more for a shiny guitar.

 

I don't clean my guitars much and this one hides the dirt better. [biggrin

 

I don't understand the logic here, having a neat clean guitar that you have had for a long time actually makes you just as much of a poser than owning a relic. Just sayin'

 

Best post here. Kudos!

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FirstMeasure

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he was not around in 1957 so he got a closet classic from somebody who did not wear out that guitar' date=' he is careful with that one I guess, do you think he plays that one on the road a lot or is it one of 250 in the rotation?

 

If you have a few guitars and you play them regularly they will get banged up and worn out no matter how careful you are, it just happens.[/quote']

 

Of course you're right, but it's still not posing.

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pippy

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I've said it once before on another, similar, thread about a year ago but I'll say it again anyhow;

 

The most gorgeous les paul I've ever seen in the, errm, flesh was in the window of a dealer who specialises in both vintage guitars and top-end modern ones. The shop was closed over the Xmas break so I couldn't go in to ask about it.

 

When I went back into town after the break it had been sold.

 

It could have been a genuine '58-'60 which had been played every night since it was crafted or a nicely aged 'Murphy'. I'll never know. It doesn't really matter either way but it was absolutely stunning.

 

I'd have taken it in a heartbeat (assuming it played well and sounded nice, of course!*).

 

 

 

 

 

* Actually I'd have taken it even if it played and sounded like a dog's log.

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ZenKen

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You're right' date=' [i']I[/i] missed the point. I want a Les Paul that looks like it's 50 years old; so, I'll guess I'll just fork out the $350,000 to get a real burst.

 

Nice bucket. Perfect fit. [biggrin]

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pippy

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Which manufacturer did it first?

 

As far as I can remember the details without checking up on my facts (not a good Idea' date=' but , hey...)

 

Murphy used to work repairing damaged guitars.

 

He was good at repairing the break (or whatever) but was keen to get the 'fix' to look as much like it was not a recent repair so set about working out how to make his work blend in with the overall look of the instrument - especially if it was a vintage piece.

 

He got it down to a fine art and, at a trade show, exhibited a [i']new[/i] instrument which had been totally 'aged' artificially, as a means of drumming up business for his repair trade.

 

Some of the visitors were so amazed by his process that he started to undertake commissions to make new instruments look like they were the genuine article and it snowballed from there.

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