scottsgh Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 i found this site while browsing, ioffer.com. there selling les pauls for under $200. they have the gibson name on them. go to the site and type in electric guitars. i e-mailed this guy asking how he's getting away with patent fraud. i"ll see if he gets back to me. take a look, these look very real! anyone ever heard of this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluezOldy Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Don't they look like genuine prices for Gibsons http://www.ioffer.com/search/items/guitar/text_pics/ioffer/80000/0/false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 That site has come up before - FAKE. Shipping is $110 to USA, so they can get by with this stuff in China or where ever these are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Well, the pictures are very nice, although I see a couple of things on his LP Custom that look a bit off; nonetheless I'd hate to see the POS that actually arrives at your door. Fortunately his prices are so ridiculously low that only a complete vegetable would be stupid enough to think these are real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsaslim Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 and how many brain cells does it take to put up a picture of a REAL Gibson LP and try to pass it off as your crap. Yes, our great friends the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 WYSIWYWYG = What You See Is What You'll Wish You Got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Fortunately his prices are so ridiculously low that only a complete vegetable would be stupid enough to think these are real.Exacly, if he charged closer to the real price he probably wouldn't be able to keep up with demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsgh Posted May 29, 2009 Author Share Posted May 29, 2009 this guy e-mailed me back. yes freind, legal , here. i'm in bejing freind. yes, actual guitar in pic. freind let me know you want. have many guitars, freind. full of bad spelling. he blocked out the part in my e-mail where i said gibson. check it out, it's the jimmy page model. one guy at the top is threatening him, i can't belive he put it in his ask a question section. we should take up a collection, get one, see what kind of crap shows up, and get his address so we could nail him for patent and copyright infringement. he must be using real gibson pics, they look great. esp. the les paul custom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Man, there really is a sucker born every minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 we should take up a collection' date=' get one, see what kind of crap shows up, and get his address so we could nail him for patent and copyright infringement.[/quote'] Right. See how much fun that is; I'm sure the Chinese government will bend over backwards to see that justice is done. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLesPaul2006 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Looks like a great deal to me...... NOT. I feel bad for the 14 year old kid who is duped into buying this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 And his equally clue-less parents give him the money for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrmatt Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 When I first heard of this site I checked it out and was reading some of the feedback of one of the sellers and it stated " seller agreed to give me a full refund if I didn't post negative feedback" ooh wouldn't want to let the bad word get around! I don't know whats more pathetic the BS fakes or the fact that some are actually purchased. mgm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgifntx Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Yeah, That crap is all over the place anymore. I read on a guys ebay garble that he was pursuing legal action, Because another "seller" had been using his photos to attempt his fraud garbage. Ironically, He stated in and along with this that ebay has yet to shut the "seller" down..? I had always heard that even the FBI monitored for fraudulant stuff just like this. Take a guy set up on the corner pedalling Nike stuff, Or Oakley and man the law is all over him. These fake git fools are hoodwinkin' some of these folks out of a purdy good chunk of change. Granted, It was purely their choice to send off the bucks. Hey, I'm living proof of rolling the dice too... I've taken a few hicky's from some nutjobs on ebay and you just kinda figure one day they'll choke on a chicken bone from a meal they bought with your moolah...:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsgh Posted May 29, 2009 Author Share Posted May 29, 2009 Yeah' date=' That crap is all over the place anymore. I read on a guys ebay garble that he was pursuinglegal action, Because another "seller" had been using his photos to attempt his fraud garbage. Ironically, He stated in and along with this that ebay has yet to shut the "seller" down..? I had always heard that even the FBI monitored for fraudulant stuff just like this. Take a guy set up on the corner pedalling Nike stuff, Or Oakley and man the law is all over him. These fake git fools are hoodwinkin' some of these folks out of a purdy good chunk of change. Granted, It was purely their choice to send off the bucks. Hey, I'm living proof of rolling the dice too... I've taken a few hicky's from some nutjobs on ebay and you just kinda figure one day they'll choke on a chicken bone from a meal they bought with your moolah...:D/ [/quote'] perfect! too funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I had always heard that even the FBI monitored for fraudulent stuff just like this. Unfortunately the FBI has very limited jurisdiction in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluezOldy Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Self-censored comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 People who buy this stuff probably have Porsche keychains for their Daihatsus... Don't blame the Chinese... They would not supply nor produce if there wasn't any (western) demand for cheap crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ef_in_fla Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Wow a custom shop Zakk for only $185. What a steal. The chinglish is priceless: Please look at this item, very beautiful and lovely.Such a nice item is best suited for personal collection or a valuable gift,a display as well? It is really fantastic! Bid it with your confidence! You will not regret! Unlimited surprise waiting for you, what are If you are a collector please don't miss this good item. please do not miss so better chance to get it. Enjoying your bidding! It will bring you and your family happy and bless! God blesses you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Well.. heck.. if it'll bring my FAMILY happy then by all means I had better get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgifntx Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Yup RX... Don't miss so better chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Wow a custom shop Zakk for only $185. What a steal. The chinglish is priceless: Please look at this item' date=' very beautiful and lovely.Such a nice item is best suited for personal collection or a valuable gift,a display as well? It is really fantastic! Bid it with your confidence! You will not regret! Unlimited surprise waiting for you, what are If you are a collector please don't miss this good item. please do not miss so better chance to get it. Enjoying your bidding! It will bring you and your family happy and bless! God blesses you!!![/i'] Sounds like, a fortune cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 one guy at the top is threatening him' date=' i can't belive he put it in his ask a question section. we should take up a collection, get one, see what kind of crap shows up, and get his address so we could nail him for patent and copyright infringement.[/quote']*takes a bow*. That would be me. I just got SICK of seeing these pieces of crap all over the site, so I couldn't help myself, so I went on a "threat frenzy". I doubt it will have ANY effect, but...whetever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midiman56 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I just have one semi-rhetorical question about these guitars: These “iOffer” units are Asian made replicas of famous guitars. Epiphones are Asian made replicas of famous guitars. Exactly how crappy are they in comparison to the guitars we all play and love? I am NOT trying to start a riot in here … I promise. Nor am I planning on buying a counterfeit Gibson or Gretsch or Fender or anything else. I am just wondering how they stack up against the “legitimate” imports. I guess the only way to tell would be to actually play one … hence the rhetorical nature of my question. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxHart85231281734137 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 if you wana get a little more up close in personal with these frauds they have a couple of youtube vids with poeple comparing them to others, not shure of where they got theres but it is a little bit helpfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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