jonny_2_owls Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I've just stumbled on this thread and it's got me pretty excited! I really hope it's a series of original spec guitars such as Rivieras and Sheratons. Or I'm thinking it'll be an Inspired by McCartney Casino, but then again the inspired by Lennon casino doesn't come with a period correct case? I hope whatever it is it'll be affordable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Casino with TremTone.......... We have a winner! Detective Pete R got this photo from the Epiphone Behind the Scenes Weblog. Here's a link: Link to Casino with Tremotone Very cool, but NOT AS COOL as a McCartney Casino, Epi1!!! Anyway, can't wait to learn more, myself. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny_2_owls Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Yeah that looks cool, like the black scratchplate and black pickup covers. And dot markers. I hope there's a riviera coming too, and maybe a Riviera xii??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Looking at the picture, I see Tortoise pickguard, Black plastic pickup covers, dot neck and the metal Bikini logo on the short (Macca type) h/stock. It can only mean one thing, ORIGINAL 1961 SPEC CASINO!!!! Afterall it was 50 years ago that the Casono was introduced. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennyman Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Whatever it is, I'm thinking that it probably has one of these attached to it: After all, Epi wouldn't go through all the trouble of redesigning and manufacturing the Tremotone just to put it on one model. Called it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodice Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 aww, i'm a wee bit disappointed. still LOVE the case, I think that's cooler! so it is along the lines of the original 1961 Casino.............. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningham26 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 great looking guitar, but bummed it's not a sheraton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 If that's what it is, then I guess I'm not really that impressed either. It's still cool, but perhaps my expectations were too high due to the "top secret" build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungrycat Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 If that's what it is, then I guess I'm not really that impressed either. It's still cool, but perhaps my expectations were too high due to the "top secret" build up. Sounds like a case of "Firebird X Syndrome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsa11 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 How many more Casinos are they gonna put out before they realize what a terrible idea this is? I think that makes 5 or 6 different models by my count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well, I'd almost bet, there will be a Riviera, and Sherton (I & II), sooner or later! It almost begs for them. (Or, maybe it's just me, that's begging??? ) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyw Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 How many more Casinos are they gonna put out before they realize what a terrible idea this is? I think that makes 5 or 6 different models by my count. You could say the same thing with Epi and Gibson about the Les Paul, SG, Firebird, Thunderbird, Flying V and ES series, Ibanez with the Jem, or with Fender and Squire and the Strat, Tele and Precision Bass. Having multiple variants of a guitar that sells well makes sense, because people almost always want another guitar and releasing something that's almost like their favourite guitar, but in a new finish, with a new pickup at the neck and the bridge they like from another guitar is one of those things that convince people to buy your brand again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyw Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Imagine.........all of those are replaced with just one Firebird X It would certainly give the secondhand market a kick. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyGibson Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 It's ok. Think I'll keep mine and don't feel the need for a second one. I was really hoping for a Sheraton with the (3 or 5) piece neck. Seems the newer ones now have the regular necks like the Dots, even though the descriptions on the Epi site haven't been updated. I'll keep looking for one to appear on Craigslist here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I'm looking forward to eventually seeing the Mccartney version. If only they'd bring out a Casino in the paler sunburst finish, like George's, the Edge's and Paul Weller's, though! It wouldn't require much investment, as it's just a paint choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyGibson Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The specs of Sheraton II say 5-piece...... http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=2005 I saw that too. But....here's from their website as well under archtop that says 3 piece. And here's a pic from Sweetwater of a natural one. Looks like a scarf joint. Did they change the definition of 3 piece to mean: headstock/neck/heel? I've corresponded with Gibson about clarifying it and they won't respond. I've also tried to join the CEO Forum to "ask Hank", but it won't let me post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_edward Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Imagine.........all of those are replaced with just one Firebird X Well... it wasn't such a good day until I read that, thanks for the laugh, that is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 If it's any consolation, I hear they are planning a "Casino X" model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 It's ok. Think I'll keep mine and don't feel the need for a second one. I was really hoping for a Sheraton with the (3 or 5) piece neck. Seems the newer ones now have the regular necks like the Dots, even though the descriptions on the Epi site haven't been updated. I think the 5-piece description is actually a recent UPDATE to the site, after it had said "set, Maple" for a time. I realize that Korean Sheratons always had the 5-piece neck, but for a while, the description on the Epi site simply said "set, Maple" (or the like), which of course, matched the guitars being produced in China. I remember looking at the Epiphone site site specifically for this spec because of another thread about the Sheraton's neck, and why the big box retailers still had "5-piece' in their descriptions. At that time (which was just in the last month or so), I remember writing that you have to be careful of the descriptions on the big box retailers used, as they aren't always updated to match the current specs on the Epiphone site. Here's another thing: just a few days ago, there was also an article about the Sheraton in the News section of the Epiphone site, and it also specified a 5-piece neck. I thought is weird the company would be so careless as to use such long-outdated information in a new article. But, given that I think there's been an update on the specs page, too, I can only conclude Epiphone has changed the specs back to a 5-piece neck on the guitars they are currently manufacturing. That, or I can't remember anything anymore and imagined the whole thing, which is also very, very possible! I guess we'll have to watch the stores to be sure, unless Epi1 or someone will clarify. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The 5-piece neck most definitely went away with the switch to Chinese production. A change to mahogany (like the original) would be nice. I've owned three different Korean Sheratons & couldn't seem to bond with any of them. Eventually was fortunate enough to trade for a Gibson 335. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I saw that too. But....here's from their website as well under archtop that says 3 piece. Note that the website now says "Set [Neck], 5-Piece, M/W/M/W/M" Here's the link: Sheraton Neck Specs This, coupled with article in the News section (in which the copy and specs also call out a 5-piece neck) leads me to believe that Epiphone reverted to the old spec. How long before we see these in store is anyone's guess...if it's not all a gross copywriting error. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyGibson Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Note that the website now says "Set [Neck], 5-Piece, M/W/M/W/M" Here's the link: Sheraton Neck Specs This, coupled with article in the News section (in which the copy and specs also call out a 5-piece neck) leads me to believe that Epiphone reverted to the old spec. How long before we see these in store is anyone's guess...if it's not all a gross copywriting error. Red 333 Red, I hope this is true. Because the description I copied is from last Friday, less than a week old. Your link goes directly there and shows 5 piece. As soon as they clear out the 2010 stock, hopefully these will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I am skeptical. This may be nothing more than the Epiphone marketeers not knowing the difference between a 3-piece, 5-piece laminated, or solid wood neck. I deal with mousketeers all the time, and more clueless folks you never met. Until we hear definitively from Epi1 or Henry J, it's all speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Note that the website now says "Set [Neck], 5-Piece, M/W/M/W/M" Here's the link: Sheraton Neck Specs This, coupled with article in the News section (in which the copy and specs also call out a 5-piece neck) leads me to believe that Epiphone reverted to the old spec. How long before we see these in store is anyone's guess...if it's not all a gross copywriting error. Red 333 That would be a welcome change, for the necks. I just hope they keep the current body shape, though...being more "Gibson" like, than the previous "generic" style. Or, go all the way, and match the "Elitist" or "AIUSA" versions, entirely. Time will tell! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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