jdgm Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 OOh nice! P90s! Yes yes! Just after I got my ES 139, another one came up in sunburst and if I'd had the readies I'd have bought that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, sparquelito said: Oh MAN, I love that. I must confess, I'm not a big ES-335 fan. But that is one gorgeous guitar. And the P90's make it special and head-turning to me. 😍 I think this is even better than a 335.. They dont make many 336's at all... Man I shouldnt have posted on here.. Its making me want it more damn it.. Been watching it for about two weeks sorta hoping someone else would buy it.. Its still there though.. Even the price is not bad at £2845... Damn it.. I know I dont need it at all.. But man I want it 🙂 Apparently its a Made 2 Measure so not even an off the shelf guitar. Damn it.. Surely its an investment.. Right... Riiigghhhhttttt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 In my search to see if I could find any other similar.. There was a 336 from 2017 that had dog ear P90s.. Didnt look quite as good IMO... Then I found this one... Let me tell you.. If it had still been for sale I would have bought it in a heartbeat 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) That's not cheap but considering how little interest money earns in any investment account these days....I see guitars like these as an investment. I shouldn't make any less in the long term than if my money had been earning the tiny amount of interest banks pay, plus I have daily joy from the guitar itself. Retrospectively, one of the best things about the HJ era was the amount of short runs, new designs and limited editions. Consider the 336 above versus some sort of reissue LP. There are many, many LP reissue variants over the years, so surely there's no way they can hold their price as well as something like this IMO - there are just so many out there. And I don't think Gibson will ever be as willing to experiment and produce new models again. Edited January 9, 2022 by jdgm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, jdgm said: That's not cheap but considering how little interest money earns in any investment account these days....I see guitars like these as an investment. I shouldn't make any less in the long term than if my money had been earning the tiny amount of interest banks pay, plus I have daily joy from the guitar itself. Retrospectively, one of the best things about the HJ era was the amount of short runs, new designs and limited editions. Consider the 336 above versus some sort of reissue LP. There are many, many LP reissue variants over the years, so surely there's no way they can hold their price as well as something like this IMO - there are just so many out there. And I don't think Gibson will ever be as willing to experiment and produce new models again. Yes. That is what I am telling myself too 😄 Its just so unusual.. And I dont know that much about investment but I have learned a bit over the last few years.. But yeah, you could put your money in worse places... My only if.. Is the neck profile.. The person described it as 60s like but flat on the back.. I have had a couple of guitars in the past with slim flat necks which I didnt like so much.. So I am not sure if its just a bad description of a usual 60s neck or its been carved to order as such and is not standard.. And its near Manchester, so, too far to drive and try it out.. Will be taking a slight risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I like the one you already have better but P90s are nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) Just finished mowing, but after looking at that 336, I gotta go play my Mean90 powered 339... Edited January 10, 2022 by mihcmac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 1:29 PM, mihcmac said: I started this in my 50's doing these hand exercises holding each position for a few seconds then start over continuing for about 5 minutes. Also use Voltaren and once in a while DMSO, including joint health supplements like Glucosamine Chondroitin and MSM. So far these are helping me maintain a modicum of flexibility at 71. I my case if I don't use it I lose it and need to continually strengthen my fingers through playing and applying correct pressure to each finger without aggravating the joints. I use Voltaren and Emu spray over top of that. Then rub it all in well, It does seem to help the pain but my hands and fingers are way too greasy to play Lol. I do need to start the stretching again. First thing at work everyday, we had to stretch everything from head to foot and that helped. Since I left, I stoped doing my stretches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Rabs said: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm What a gorgeous guitar. That's Steve Fords? And I love P-90's also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Retired said: What a gorgeous guitar. That's Steve Fords? And I love P-90's also. No its one I am thinking about buying and having internal arguments about 🙂 I really dont need it. BUT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, mihcmac said: Just finished mowing, but after looking at that 336, I gotta go play my Mean90 powered 339... Yesterday, I got my Rivera out after a long spell. Recently, I changed the factory strings and set it all up but never played it except for tuning it. It's a wine red with 3 P-90's in it. I've been playing my Casino Coupe a lot but I hear so much more tone in the Riviera plugged in the tube amp. Of course, Deb wasn't home so I cranked it up Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rabs said: No its one I am thinking about buying and having internal arguments about 🙂 I really dont need it. BUT!!! Well, I have no clue to how many you have? But That is a Gibson I would get if I had the cash for it. Actually I do, but it's all in my 401K & Deb doesn't want me to take that out just yet, "For tax purposes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Retired said: Well, I have no clue to how many you have? But That is a Gibson I would get if I had the cash for it. Actually I do, but it's all in my 401K & Deb doesn't want me to take that out just yet, "For tax purposes." I have four at the moment... One is a 336 with humbuckers... Which is why I say I dont need it.. But I love my 336 so much the idea of a P90 one is extremely tempting. I can afford it as such.. But that still doesnt mean I should get it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Rabs said: I have four at the moment... One is a 336 with humbuckers... Which is why I say I dont need it.. But I love my 336 so much the idea of a P90 one is extremely tempting. I can afford it as such.. But that still doesnt mean I should get it.. I'm still deciding if I should keep the Alnico pickups in my Gibson Gold Top or put P-90's in it? I was looking up some today, over $200.00 for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Retired said: I'm still deciding if I should keep the Alnico pickups in my Gibson Gold Top or put P-90's in it? I was looking up some today, over $200.00 for both. I know... The prices of pickups have gone mad.. (well like everything else these days I guess). I am glad I know of good cheaper ones for my builds.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 If you don't get it you'll be kicking yourself. As you said, it's a rare guitar and you can afford and it is different than the beauty you currently have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Retired said: I'm still deciding if I should keep the Alnico pickups in my Gibson Gold Top or put P-90's in it? I was looking up some today, over $200.00 for both. so.. how will you plan to retro fit P90s into the cavities for the humbuckers? P94s is what you'd probably be looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Rabs said: I know... The prices of pickups have gone mad.. (well like everything else these days I guess). I am glad I know of good cheaper ones for my builds.. I always thought that Standard's came with the higher made pickups? Like P-90's, Burst bucker's and such. Are Alnico's the cheaper ones? Thats what's in my Standard G.T. Same as my Standard Epiphone for $400.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, kidblast said: so.. how will you plan to retro fit P90s into the cavities for the humbuckers? P94s is what you'd probably be looking for. P94's? To tell the truth, I know little about changing them and what fits in what guitar. I have never even opened up the backside of any guitar yet or looked inside the front. All I know is many Gold Tops came with P90's or P94's as you say. My Gold Top Standard has Alnico's in it, same as my Epiphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Retired said: P94's? To tell the truth, I know little about changing them and what fits in what guitar. I have never even opened up the backside of any guitar yet or looked inside the front. All I know is many Gold Tops came with P90's or P94's as you say. My Gold Top Standard has Alnico's in it, same as my Epiphone. Alnico's are usually referring to the magnets inside the pickups Regular Humbucker's are not the size as traditional P90s, They are bigger so the cavity that the pickups go in will be too big for P90s P94s are the same size as Humbuckers but they are sill "P90s" Note that MINI Humbuckers are P90 sized humbuckers. Like you'd see on a Les Paul Deluxe so the question is what exactly are you trying to swap out? (Photos) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Retired said: I always thought that Standard's came with the higher made pickups? Like P-90's, Burst bucker's and such. Are Alnico's the cheaper ones? Thats what's in my Standard G.T. Same as my Standard Epiphone for $400.00. No Alnico is the magnet inside.... Usually they are more classic sounding.. You also have ceramic magnet ones like I have in my classic that usually give you more of an aggressive output... Theres also different alnico magnets i.e. Alnico 2 and 5... And actually you can find the same types of pickups in a lot of Gibsons... The Customs come with custom buckers..... Which I think is more to do with the exact amount of coil winds... You can also easily change the magnets, they slide out. The way I see it, pickups are not complicated things.. Magnets with wire wrapped around them and a case.. Which is why I dont mind using cheaper pickups... As long as the cheapest crap isnt used to make them (crap magnets and cheap wire) you can get really good cheap ones. I do have a thing for Gibson pickups though.. They are very good, Gibson has their formula down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, kidblast said: Alnico's are usually referring to the magnets inside the pickups Regular Humbucker's are not the size as traditional P90s, They are bigger so the cavity that the pickups go in will be too big for P90s P94s are the same size as Humbuckers but they are sill "P90s" Note that MINI Humbuckers are P90 sized humbuckers. Like you'd see on a Les Paul Deluxe so the question is what exactly are you trying to swap out? (Photos) I wish I could do photos but I have problems with Imgur letting me in. Photo bucket used to let me post but that is gone now. I'm thinking with my lack of skill on changing any out, I will probably take it to a Luthier to do it after we talk some about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, Retired said: I wish I could do photos but I have problems with Imgur letting me in. Photo bucket used to let me post but that is gone now. I'm thinking with my lack of skill on changing any out, I will probably take it to a Luthier to do it after we talk some about it. I was having issues with Imgur.. What I did in the end was leave the Beta page and go back to the old page.. Theres an option for it in the settings somewhere.. Works fine now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Rabs said: No Alnico is the magnet inside.... Usually they are more classic sounding.. You also have ceramic magnet ones like I have in my classic that usually give you more of an aggressive output... Theres also different alnico magnets i.e. Alnico 2 and 5... And actually you can find the same types of pickups in a lot of Gibsons... The Customs come with custom buckers..... Which I think is more to do with the exact amount of coil winds... You can also easily change the magnets, they slide out. The way I see it, pickups are not complicated things.. Magnets with wire wrapped around them and a case.. Which is why I dont mind using cheaper pickups... As long as the cheapest crap isnt used to make them (crap magnets and cheap wire) you can get really good cheap ones. I do have a thing for Gibson pickups though.. They are very good, Gibson has their formula down. Ok, So I learned something, Thanks. I always thought they were the cheapest and really, I don't know what I have in it. I have done comparison tests on the net and cannot tell the difference between the two. So maybe what I have is alright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Rabs said: I was having issues with Imgur.. What I did in the end was leave the Beta page and go back to the old page.. Theres an option for it in the settings somewhere.. Works fine now. Thanks Rob, When Our son gets time, I'm going to have him help me out with Imgur this year. I would love to post photos here of my guitars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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