merciful-evans Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 11 hours ago, rct said: I'm also not the least bit interested in how it sounds unplugged, that is not why I'm buying it. rct I concur. Lots of players obsess about unplugged volume etc. Good luck to all of them, but it's not on my agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I noodle around late at night & sometimes early morning with my Electric Guitars unplugged... Learning, rehearsing or working out new parts.. Out of courtesy, I don’t want to wake up my wife… It’s important to me how they sound unplugged.. I find the better they sound unplugged, the better they sound plugged in.. Generally speaking… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) I usually practice unplugged at home so as not to disturb my neighbours (have had much trouble with that in the past) and enjoy the sound of my solid bodies without amplification as much as I do with it. I love putting my ear to the back of my LP Custom, striking the 12th fret harmonics and listening to the sound of the overtones ringing through the mahogany. One of life's pleasures. 🎸 Edited February 18, 2023 by jdgm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, jdgm said: I usually practice unplugged at home so as not to disturb my neighbours (have had much trouble with that in the past) and enjoy the sound of my solid bodies without amplification as much as I do with it. I love putting my ear to the back of my LP Custom, striking the 12th fret harmonics and listening to the sound of the overtones ringing through the mahogany. One of life's pleasures. 🎸 Or you can get one of these type of devices. Whitefang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Whitefang said: Or you can get one of these type of devices. Whitefang How do you sing along with that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, jdgm said: I usually practice unplugged at home so as not to disturb my neighbours (have had much trouble with that in the past) and enjoy the sound of my solid bodies without amplification as much as I do with it. I love putting my ear to the back of my LP Custom, striking the 12th fret harmonics and listening to the sound of the overtones ringing through the mahogany. One of life's pleasures. 🎸 Or you can put the headstock against the door jamb or any other wood trim. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanHenry Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I have to get a 335!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Lol when I turned that video on I had to learn some of those licks. You can set playback to half speed on YouTube so that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Whitefang said: Or you can get one of these type of devices. Whitefang I do have an old 9v battery-powered headphone amp. got fed up with wires/leads....if I was in the market for one, I'd get one of these - https://www.fender.com/en-GB/guitar-amplifiers/headphone-amplifiers/mustang-micro/2311300000.html But I don't like headphones so much these days. 17 hours ago, rct said: Or you can put the headstock against the door jamb or any other wood trim. rct Which is amplifying it. No man that's not my vibe!! You gotta dig the sound of the overtones sustaining the heavenly chimes of raw creation through the pores of the mahogany!! Seriously; if you do this on a decent Strat the sound of the springs is like another dimension of reverb. It's good on a Tele too. I am surprised no recording artist to my knowledge has used the 'headstock against door frame' sound AFAIK....but maybe they have. And (smug jdgm here) BTW...if tone is in your fingers then practicing acoustically is good. Edited February 19, 2023 by jdgm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I agree. My practice time used to be 5am when I worked. I vaguely remember that time. Today, my practice time is at the other end of the day, it's 11pm or so. I've always just walked around playing a guitar, electric or acoustic, no amp. It's the singing that I have to keep quiet, so sometimes I just hum quietly or speak the words softly. "Tone is in your fingers" is shorthand for saying something like this; If you set up two amps, same two, any two as long as they are the same, and two guitars, same two, any two as long as they are the same, two different guitar players will make them sound different, on some scale or the other. If it was me and you, you might say it is in our fingers. I will definitely say it is in our bodies, all of us, and everything from the shoulder on down is pushing and pulling hitting on that thing at both ends, and all kinds of body parts are behind it, stopping it, bending it, whatever. rct 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 8 hours ago, rct said: Or you can put the headstock against the door jamb or any other wood trim. rct Many years ago, when I worked on the ramp at BWI, we had these to plug our ears: I would wear them at home and rest the hard plastic against my Strat and it transfer the sound amazingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, saturn said: Many years ago, when I worked on the ramp at BWI, we had these to plug our ears: I would wear them at home and rest the hard plastic against my Strat and it transfer the sound amazingly. When I am recording and I forget to put the headphone cable over my shoulder and behind me, it does the same thing if it gets between me and the Tele. Sounds great! rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 So basically you guys all want Piezos 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 12:52 PM, IanHenry said: I love that video. I've always thought the same over the years. my 1st impression is how it sounds just playing it unplugged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 2:43 PM, Big Bill said: I have to get a 335!!!! I love mine ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROWB8 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 10:02 AM, Whitefang said: Or you can get one of these type of devices. Whitefang On 2/18/2023 at 10:05 AM, Larsongs said: How do you sing along with that? Like this, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROWB8 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 6:30 PM, rct said: I think the phrases "open up", "opened up", and "opening up" are pseudo-technical terms for that point at which a guitar player has become used to and enjoys and likes the sound of their guitar. It sort of generalizes something we all do, makes it seem like something more than it really is. "I like it a whole bunch now" is probably more accurate, but harder to legitimize. rct I whole heartedly agree. I personally feel playing a new guit unplugged is very important in choosing what fits me. Not only that, it allows me to get the most out of it. To get harmonics, tonal qualities, and transfer of vibrations thru hands and body unplugged is, for me, a deal breaker. Kinda why I prefer set necks over bolt on and neck thru over set on solid electrics. With exceptions. Fender, for one. Playing unplugged for a while first, makes it a lot easier to call out, thru emotional feelings, those tonal qualities when plugged in. I feel more connected to the guit. Hard to explain. If I can communicate my emotions thru a guit unplugged, then after plugging in, those emotions can be accented with out taking away from my feelings. Dunno if I made sense there. Arg. Excellent snag Steve. Brings back my late 60's memories. Betcha can't wait for that one to mature. Ten years and it will really start to "come in". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Karloff said: I love mine ... I’ve had 335’s & 345’s… I have a 2013 335 Dot currently.. What can you say? They are some of the most amazing Guitars on the Planet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 11:15 PM, rct said: "Tone is in your fingers" is shorthand for saying something like this; If you set up two amps, same two, any two as long as they are the same, and two guitars, same two, any two as long as they are the same, two different guitar players will make them sound different, on some scale or the other. If it was me and you, you might say it is in our fingers. I will definitely say it is in our bodies, all of us, and everything from the shoulder on down is pushing and pulling hitting on that thing at both ends, and all kinds of body parts are behind it, stopping it, bending it, whatever. rct Well that makes a bit more sense to me You are what you eat. Maybe tone is in the fishfingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 19 hours ago, CROWB8 said: I whole heartedly agree. I personally feel playing a new guit unplugged is very important in choosing what fits me. Not only that, it allows me to get the most out of it. To get harmonics, tonal qualities, and transfer of vibrations thru hands and body unplugged is, for me, a deal breaker. Kinda why I prefer set necks over bolt on and neck thru over set on solid electrics. With exceptions. Fender, for one. Playing unplugged for a while first, makes it a lot easier to call out, thru emotional feelings, those tonal qualities when plugged in. I feel more connected to the guit. Hard to explain. If I can communicate my emotions thru a guit unplugged, then after plugging in, those emotions can be accented with out taking away from my feelings. Dunno if I made sense there. Arg. Excellent snag Steve. Brings back my late 60's memories. Betcha can't wait for that one to mature. Ten years and it will really start to "come in". I feel that the only good info you get from playing an electric unplugged is to judge the action and any other playability matters. The "true" sound of an electric is never heard until it is plugged in and turned on. But that might just be me. Whitefang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Whitefang said: I feel that the only good info you get from playing an electric unplugged is to judge the action and any other playability matters. The "true" sound of an electric is never heard until it is plugged in and turned on. But that might just be me. Whitefang No, there's at least 3 of us so far.... It could have been more, but somebody went and posted up that Gary Moore thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROWB8 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 This is a great site with excellent members. I like it when an OP allows for some expanded discussions within the topic. Tnx Steve. And y'all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, merciful-evans said: No, there's at least 3 of us so far.... It could have been more, but somebody went and posted up that Gary Moore thing... Make it 4… I like to noodle around on them unplugged when I’m practicing Guitar & Vocals, Composing & working out Parts… When there’s no need for the Artillery… I believe the better they sound unplugged, the better they sound plugged in.. Most all of my Electric Guitars had to pass the playing unplugged test & the plugged in test before buying them.. The ones I didn’t I’ve sold off & replaced.. Of all my Electric Guitars the Casino’s are my favorites unplugged & plugged in.. Unplugged they have good volume & sound almost as good as my Martin D-35 & my Gibson J-160E. Edited February 26, 2023 by Larsongs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Larsongs said: Make it 4… I like to noodle around on them unplugged when I’m practicing Guitar & Vocals, Composing & working out Parts… When there’s no need for the Artillery… I believe the better they sound unplugged, the better they sound plugged in.. Most all of my Electric Guitars had to pass the playing unplugged test & the plugged in test before buying them.. The ones I didn’t I’ve sold off & replaced.. Of all my Electric Guitars the Casino’s are my favorites unplugged & plugged in.. Unplugged they have good volume & sound almost as good as my Martin D-35 & my Gibson J-160E. The support is welcome, but methinks there is a misunderstanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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