Twiz Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 One of my bands shares a practice spot with another band. Last night at practice I played through a JCM800 4X12 slant cab. Holy crap. My V sounded better than I've ever heard it. Just when I think I'm done buying stuff, I get more GAS. Darn it. I'm beginning to think that chasing tone is an endless journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I'm jonesing for this one myself... 1960tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabba2203 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Depending on how old that 800 cab is, it will either have the G12-65 or G12-70 speakers. Both sound great but the 65 is the sweet meat! Most of my old 800 cabs had the 65's and they just sounded awesome. Celestion has reissued them but are big $$$. Warehouse Guitar Speakers has a clone of it for much less. Buy the speakers and load your own cab! http://wgs4.com/content/et65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiz Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Thanks for the link man. I'll check that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiz Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 ... Yowza. That's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyMoon Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 check out these guys as well.... Avatar Cabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyT Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Gearmanndude did a review on the Warehouse speakers awhile back, he likes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 the nice part about marshall 1960a/b cabs is that they are really common and therefor cheap on the used market. I bought my JCM900 1960a for a whopping $325. I'm watching CL to score another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 check out these guys as well.... Avatar Cabs ^^^ I would recommend these guys they build a solid re-pro cab. I have their 4x10 "blues breaker" open back and it rocks. you want top notch at a very slight price point increase try these guys http://mathercab.com...st_marshall.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yeah, the WGS speakers are the ****! I love Avatar cabs myself. Their vintage series 4x12 is based on the 70s Marshall cabs with the basketweave grill cloth (kinda like the ones AC/DC uses live). And I highly doubt a newer Marshall cab will sound as good. Those old cabs are somethin'! Lastly, in that pic of your 5150 with the Marshall cab, are you plugged into the low gain input? I use the low gain input on my Peavey Prowler and I have never seen anyone else use the low input on any amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiz Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Actually, I just found a used Avatar 4X12 at a local shop. I'm going to check that out. They only want $300. If I don't like it, I'm going to go for a used 1960 cab. I see 'em on Craigslist from time to time. Also, Kaleb, good eye! I've always used the low input on my amp. The high is just a little too hissy (is that the word?) for me. Maybe I'm crazy, but I swear I hear the wood of the guitar a little more when I use the low input. I don't use a lot of gain. *Edit* The tone I shoot for is kinda like the guitar sound on Judas Priest's Sad Wings Of Destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Actually, I just found a used Avatar 4X12 at a local shop. I'm going to check that out. They only want $300. If I don't like it, I'm going to go for a used 1960 cab. I see 'em on Craigslist from time to time. Also, Kaleb, good eye! I've always used the low input on my amp. The high is just a little too hissy (is that the word?) for me. Maybe I'm crazy, but I swear I hear the wood of the guitar a little more when I use the low input. I don't use a lot of gain. Well, the 5150s have almost too much gain (you would know....), and the low channel sounds warmer IMHO. I find that with a lot of Peavey amps. Just with Peaveys though, not with any other brand. My Prowler isn't super high gain amp at all (I would describe it as a JCM900 amount of gain), but I don't hear a big difference in gain between the two inputs. The high input sounds a bit hotter and sizzling to my ears, while the low input is warmer and smoother. It's also less bright, so it works better with single coils. I seriously thought I was the only one that used the low channel on the Peaveys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Pass on the current "1960" cabs that only say "1960" in the bottom left corner. If it says JCM 800 or 900 / 1960 lead, it will be made of birch (some of the very late JCM 900 1960 models were particle board though, just look for a date code on it). The back panel on the 1960 cabs has been particle board since sometime in the late 70's I beleive. Avatar sells some very well made, high quality cabinets, although I don't think they actually make the cabs themselves in their shop, they just load them with your choice of speakers, and wire them up. I have the Avatar vintage 2x12. Love it, but it is essentially brand new and just sits unused (I currently have 7 speaker cabs). I have been looking at WGS speakers for a few years, and it's probably about time I buy a few and check em out. I've heard great things about WGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiz Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Pass on the current "1960" cabs that only say "1960" in the bottom left corner. If it says JCM 800 or 900 / 1960 lead, it will be made of birch (some of the very late JCM 900 1960 models were particle board though, just look for a date code on it). The back panel on the 1960 cabs has been particle board since sometime in the late 70's I beleive... Yeah, the one in my photo earlier in this thread has the JCM 800 next to 1960. I'm guessing that the birch and the older speakers are what got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Lastly, in that pic of your 5150 with the Marshall cab, are you plugged into the low gain input? I use the low gain input on my Peavey Prowler and I have never seen anyone else use the low input on any amp. Funny, I use the lower input pretty much exclusively no matter what amp I'm using. For no particular reason really.. Most of the time I'm pretty sure both inputs are the same but I go for the second one because I'm weird like that haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I just sold this empty jobber for a hundred bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondJig Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I just sold this empty jobber for a hundred bucks Looks like an Egnator cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Looks like an Egnator cab It was a 4x12 Marshall 1960 copy I made in the Egnater colors. For my Renegade that I sold. It's all fun until somebody's ears get blown out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 the nice part about marshall 1960a/b cabs is that they are really common and therefor cheap on the used market. I bought my JCM900 1960a for a whopping $325. I'm watching CL to score another. Nice, here in Nashville good deals like that can be harder to come along because apparently some folks know their sh!t. Check this one out, this cab has been around but still $450 firm read the description http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/3098767446.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm jonesing for this one myself... 1960tv If you find one grab it . I had one I bought back in the early 90's and paired with a JCM800 it was a killer sounding cabinet. Nice midrange... Wish I would have never sold that rig.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 There are other good cabs too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 If you find one grab it . I had one I bought back in the early 90's and paired with a JCM800 it was a killer sounding cabinet. Nice midrange... Wish I would have never sold that rig.... They have re-issued them now. That pic is straight form MFs website. They are $1250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Depending on how old that 800 cab is, it will either have the G12-65 or G12-70 speakers. Both sound great but the 65 is the sweet meat! Most of my old 800 cabs had the 65's and they just sounded awesome. Celestion has reissued them but are big $$$. Warehouse Guitar Speakers has a clone of it for much less. Buy the speakers and load your own cab! http://wgs4.com/content/et65 I had always thought the JCM speaker was the G12-75? Not saying you are wrong, just curious (I don't actually know). More specifically, (again, I ain't the guy to be saying specifics) is that the G12-65 was the speaker used for the JMP series, the G12-70 was introduced and intended to be the JCM speaker, but it wassn't very well recieved and replaced by the G12-75. What I think is a worthy question: when exactly did Celestian change to China manufacture? What are the actual differences? As in, have many compared, say, the Vintage 30 made in England and the Vintage 30 made in China? That might seem a good thing to know when it comes to, say buying "reissues" with hopes of getting the sound you had with the origonal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 What I think is a worthy question: when exactly did Celestian change to China manufacture? What are the actual differences? As in, have many compared, say, the Vintage 30 made in England and the Vintage 30 made in China? Don't know when, what changed depends on who you ask, I heard a guy say he sold his UK-made Vintage 30's for a great price and kept his sets of Chinese Vintage 30's because he could not hear the difference. Some say that the components are still made in the UK but assembled in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I had always thought the JCM speaker was the G12-75? So did I, actually. But I could be wrong too. What I think is a worthy question: when exactly did Celestian change to China manufacture? What are the actual differences? As in, have many compared, say, the Vintage 30 made in England and the Vintage 30 made in China? I thought they still made some in the UK - just the lower priced ones are Asian made. But again, I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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