Tanner1994 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 my dad just got his first pistol yesterday, because of obama and his possible future policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonicchaos Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I do. I'm independent but I side with the Dems most of the time, especially versus republicans but I do agree with the Republicans about guns. I like to be able to own one for safety and protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Firm believer in the Second Amendment. I live in an area with a very low crime rate. I also live in an area that has an averege of 3 guns per household. No coincidence there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I am as stated in agreement with the majority of those posting.As devils advocate I relay a true event. In 1982 A friend of mine who's parents were out of the house grabbed the household .22 to shoot a wild stray dog. He slipped and killed his little brother. He lost his mind on that day. He will never recover. He's been in and out of institutions of various types ever since. Just saying. Not changing my opinion. An accident. Has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. Accidents happen Homz. Has ZERO to do with MY right to bear arms....... People fall down and shoot people all the time. It's a problem in Russia too, I'm sure. They drink Vodka, fall down, and shoot their kids. I've seen it on T.V. Who cares? Murph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 like gibson guitars' date=' firearms are still an american tradition. S&W Model 642 .38 Special.[/quote'] Quite agree! My wife carries my 642, Magnaported to reduce muzzle flip and fitted with larger Cocobolo wood grips. As devils advocate What else would you be....? In 1982 A friend of mine who's parents were out of the house grabbed the household .22 to shoot a wild stray dog. He slipped and killed his little brother. Tragic' date=' but I'm far from shedding a tear. The gun did nothing wrong. We kill 40,000 people a year in cars, who in this forum has sworn off driving - or even riding in any sort of vehicle? Keep your Oprah Winfrey sh!t... Guns are ok by me. When it becomes a religion It just freaks me out. It's a tool. The NRA of which I was once a member will never get a dime from me again. I think they lost their mission when they started picking political sides instead of issues. In other words, you disagree with them because your union labor propaganda tells you that you should. Talk about religion? You're in a cult. Have you SEEN where the Defeatocrat/Socialist party has been headed since 1964? THAT'S why the NRA started choosing political sides. dc3c46, you should see the entrance to the NeoCon Compound here in the Arizona desert. You would be most pleased.... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Tari Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Well when my daughter turned 11 I set my Whole family up for a NRA Wepons safety seminar. It was a two day Course At Craney Island. We all passed the course and my daughter got a 410 for her birthday. We like going out shooting when we can and my wife and daughter are good shoots. WE run into whole familys out here taking up the sport. In the fall we like the Turkey shots. My favorite is out in Smithfield. Being of total military Back ground I believe in teaching and giving the members of my family every opportunity in learning everthing that will in the future give them knowledge in protecting themselves and Taking care of themselves in almost all circumstances. My wife has already had a couple Incidents, One Christmas Eve we were getting ready for Christmas Dinner when she found we needed some stuff to finish it off. I told her I would go up and get it at the local supermarket. She told me thats just what I needed was a DUI. So she went herself. When she got home she was Flushed and excited and wouldn't tell me what had happened. I found out after Christmas That their was a guy snatching purses in the parking lot of the supermarket that night. The store manager said everone at the checkout got a Christmas show. The guy tried to snatch my wife,s purse in front of the store. He said the guy tried to grab it and run but from training my wife had it tight on her shoulder. When he turned aroud with his hand up like he was going to hit her, a 22 was up his nose. The guy was pleading for his life then. The manager of the store said he was going out there but he didn't know how she would react with her mind being busy like it was. She let him go and he ran. The people in the store treated her like a hero when she got in there. I asked my wife why she hadn't told me about it. She said she didn't want to mess up my Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 An accident. Has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. Accidents happen Homz. Has ZERO to do with MY right to bear arms....... People fall down and shoot people all the time. It's a problem in Russia too' date=' I'm sure. They drink Vodka, fall down, and shoot their kids. I've seen it on T.V. Who cares? Murph.[/quote'] As usual Murph misses the point. Which was simply a point to express and hopefully help all understand the kind of thing that is used in the anti-gun arguments. I wasn't trying to change any one's opinion. It happened to a friend of mine and it didn't change my opinion. In fact the incident actually made me even more aware (at 16) if I needed more awareness of gun safety. I remember going rabbit hunting a couple of weeks after it happened and the thought of it wouldn't leave my mind. Neo I kinda expected more from you. I know what you've heard about me, but please try to understand some of those that are feeding you information are ones who's *** I handed to them at one time or another. I think you can appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I have no idea what this means. Neo In other words, you disagree with them because your union labor propaganda tells you that you should.Talk about religion? You're in a cult. Have you SEEN where the Defeatocrat/Socialist party has been headed since 1964? THAT'S why the NRA started choosing political sides. dc3c46, you should see the entrance to the NeoCon Compound here in the Arizona desert. You would be most pleased.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I think it was meant as a sexual term. I stand corrected. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan94 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 hey this amendment thing is crap if obama dose it it means that i was right he is a communist i take no crap and that is back up by my benelli super nova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajsc Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Thomas Jeffersons idea was for the people to take arms against the government when it no longer represents the peoples needs (like now) I'm not so sure about that one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajsc Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I am as stated in agreement with the majority of those posting.As devils advocate I relay a true event. In 1982 A friend of mine who's parents were out of the house grabbed the household .22 to shoot a wild stray dog. He slipped and killed his little brother. He lost his mind on that day. He will never recover. He's been in and out of institutions of various types ever since. Just saying. Not changing my opinion. Doesn't sound like this guy had very much going for him in the 1st place!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan94 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I am as stated in agreement with the majority of those posting.As devils advocate I relay a true event. In 1982 A friend of mine who's parents were out of the house grabbed the household .22 to shoot a wild stray dog. He slipped and killed his little brother. He lost his mind on that day. He will never recover. He's been in and out of institutions of various types ever since. Just saying. Not changing my opinion. hey how old was the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 hey how old was the guy The shooter was 15. His little brother was 10. He Shot him in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 One respondent referred to Thos. Jefferson. Note that he felt that a walk in the woods with a rifle was among the best recreational things to do - and for much the same reason I play guitar. (Not counting economic potential advantages.) Odd thing about the Brits is that we basically demanded our rights as Englishmen some 230 years ago. We still sorta have them, the Brits don't. My understanding also is that in the UK you can't even feature a handgun on a magazine cover. The UK also currently is the leader in "libel-tourism" in that if you don't like what somebody wrote in the US but ended up in a couple of books or magazines or even a web site seen in the UK, you can sue in a Brit court and get a judgment against an American writer. We musicians have reason to be concerned about the second amendment because regardless of style, we all tend to be somewhat independent folk. Consider what the gun controllers did during the Third Reich to music and musicians... Isaac Asimov noted that an armed society is a polite society. Finally, a guitar and a firearm both are simply inanimate objects. Either can be used to cause damage or destruction, to defend the one who carries them or simply to bring a bit of entertainment to the user and the world around them. (BTW, I've never used a firearm in self defense but ... Yup, I have used a guitar for such. It's a good reason one should consider a solidbody for playing some sorts of saloons. Just use it like a bayonet.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MReynolds Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Thomas Jeffersons idea was for the people to take arms against the government when it no longer represents the peoples needs (like now) I'm not so sure about that one!! Be sure. "What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson : Source: November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, quoted in Padover's Jefferson On Democracy, ed., 1939 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Be sure. "What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts' date=' pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson : Source: November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, quoted in Padover's Jefferson On Democracy, ed., 1939 [/quote'] I've used that quote several times over the last 8 years. Irony is an icky bi*ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjuju342 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 All for having guns for protection. A nifty quote from the movie"Shoot 'Em Up" comes to mind: "Guns don't kill people but they sure do help.":-" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bscott Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever let the second amendment be changed. The Liberal government here in Canada made private ownership of firearms much more difficult, random searches and seizures by police if they want - no search warrant needed nor even any hint of potential criminal activity. If you ever give the anti's any foothold kiss it goodbye. It is easier - and cheaper, to buy an illegal gun than it is to own them legitimately. Go fugure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 it is true what the cliche says: if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basshole Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 All for having guns for protection. A nifty quote from the movie"Shoot 'Em Up" comes to mind: "Guns don't kill people but they sure do help.":-" Not even that man "guns dont kill people, death kills people, its a known clincal fact" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 As one of America's top defenders of the Second Amendment, Happy Birthday Lars Larson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninety1vee Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 i happen to love the constitution, and german guns (H&K particularly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daerious Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There isn't any gun control debate anymore. There are lots of people pretending there is, but the fact is, everyone knows what happens when a government disarms the citizens, and it is definitely not less violent crimes. Gun control activists like to spout off horrible events and accidents involving guns. If they were to spend half as much time and money on education (proper use of a firearm for example), they would eliminate far more gun related deaths than they could possibly hope to by even a complete ban on firearms. I hate to hear a 15 year old shot a 10 year old, it's a sad story, but had his parents exercised not just the right to own a firearm, but also the responsibility that comes with it, that 10 year old wouldn't have been shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MReynolds Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I hate to hear a 15 year old shot a 10 year old' date=' it's a sad story, but had his parents exercised not just the right to own a firearm, but also the responsibility that comes with it, that 10 year old wouldn't have been shot.[/quote'] What I don't understand is how could my Dad and I grow up with guns in the house and never mess with them. My Grandfather had some hunting rifles and shotguns...Dad never hurt himself or anyone else....My Dad had several shotguns and he told me never to touch the guns unless I asked him and only when he was around...gee...guess what I did?...listened to him and didn't touch them. Not sure why so many kids get into their parents guns these days....I'm thinking poor parenting skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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