Larsongs Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 They are supposed to real for 2020 according to NAMM. Although, they don't appear on Epi Site.. No Specs, Pricing etc.. Other than a couple Pics not much else on these. What are the Specs, where are they going to be built, how much? More Pics... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Larsongs said: They are supposed to real for 2020 according to NAMM. Although, they don't appear on Epi Site.. No Specs, Pricing etc.. Other than a couple Pics not much else on these. What are the Specs, where are they going to be built, how much? More Pics... The foreign-made Texans were about $699 and the USA made ones are going to be $2699. There up on Sweetwaters site. Foreign-made casinos are about $499 so I would believe the usa-made ones are going to be over two grand. They are not yet up on Sweetwater site. Edited January 21, 2020 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 https://reverb.com/news/epiphone-quietly-unveils-made-in-usa-casino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Gibson can ship me the Casino to the left (without the pick guard) to my front porch.... I’ll even pay the shipping 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, duane v said: https://reverb.com/news/epiphone-quietly-unveils-made-in-usa-casino Very interesting whats going on with this new line.. I like it.. A Wilshire would be very cool too.. and I reckon a good seller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Looks like I’m getting me a new Casino 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Navy Vet. Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) I’ve been following NAMM on Guitar Player.Com, Guitar. Com, Music Radar. Com and I tell you the only guitar that jazzed me up is the non reverse Firebird from Gibson Custom Shop. Now everyone seems to be digging the Epiphones, and I get it, a Epiphone made in the USA is a rare treat for those who dig Epiphone. I don’t, but that doesn’t mean anything. I didn’t see one guitar from Fender that I would want, but I would be like a dog on a bone for a non reverse Firebird. And it’s made in the USA, like every Gibson. Edited January 22, 2020 by Navy Vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fazeka Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Larsongs said: They are supposed to real for 2020 according to NAMM. Although, they don't appear on Epi Site.. No Specs, Pricing etc.. Other than a couple Pics not much else on these. What are the Specs, where are they going to be built, how much? More Pics... Thanks I understand (probably thru an unofficial source) that these were a preview to the summer NAMM. Which, if true, could explain why Epiphone doesn't have it listed on their site. And why there ain't a whole lotta pics available. Also, if true, won't ship till later this year. Looks to be early 60s specs (old style headstock, old style trapeze, etc.). Royal Tan with nickel p-up covers, sunburst with black plastic p-up covers. My suspicion is that they will be built by Gibson (weren't they next to Gibson's area?) and I've heard they will list around $2800. Edited January 22, 2020 by fazeka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 This is certainly good to see, especially since there's currently no ES-330 in the new lineup. Love the Royal Tan, but I do prefer the hourglass headstock. No matter though. I'm not going to be in the market for one, already having two stellar 330s and a very nice Elitist Casino. Otherwise, my wheels would be on high-speed spin cycle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Navy Vet. said: I’ve been following NAMM on Guitar Player.Com, Guitar. Com, Music Radar. Com and I tell you the only guitar that jazzed me up is the non reverse Firebird from Gibson Custom Shop. Now everyone seems to be digging the Epiphones, and I get it, a Epiphone made in the USA is a rare treat for those who dig Epiphone. I don’t, but that doesn’t mean anything. I didn’t see one guitar from Fender that I would want, but I would be like a dog on a bone for a non reverse Firebird. And it’s made in the USA, like every Gibson. If that Firebird is like the non reverse Brian Jones played I want one... After I get the USA Casino... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FemmeParallell Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I've never owned an Epiphone, but i think its time i do! love this new line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I've got a made in Korea (Peerless factory) Casino that is a gem of a guitar. I also have a made in USA ES-330 and I like it even better. You can't beat that P90 sound IMO. Notes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fazeka Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 There's a private forum I frequent that had a really great write up on the history of Epiphone in the '60s. It addresses especially the consideration of pricing and will be invaluable to those that weren't around or don't remember Gibson US-made Epiphones. I thought it was very well written and I wish I could just post a link to it. Failing that, here's the post: "That's why there WAS an Epiphone brand, so the parent company CMI could sell guitars to a second dealer when there was already a Gibson dealer in that territory. If a Gibson dealer had a territory, CMI could not sell Gibsons to another store within it. But they could sell Epiphones to the store next door without violating the letter of the agreement. Originally, CMI bought Epiphone in a sort of salvage sale, to gain access to its machines and parts for making basses. They soon realized that the brand name itself was valuable, because it gave the a way to get more sales in existing, protected territories by offering a line up that closely mirrored Gibson's to dealers that othwerwise had Gibson unavailable to them. Kalamazoo-made Epiphones were never less expensive, second class citizens. In the '60s they were the equivalent of Gibsons in both in price and quality and made in the same facilities, though there were minor price variances that reflected special features and ornamentation, as you'd expect. Some Epiphones were MORE EXPENSIVE than Gibsons, like the Excellente acoustic that has been recently reissued. Epiphone became a budget brand when manufacturing was outsourced to various offshore makers on the '70s to combat the rise of low-cost import brands." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Are the headstocks that look more Gibsony, that are going to be on the new ones, just like they were for Epi in the old days, or a new look to spruce it up? Edited January 23, 2020 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fazeka Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 17 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Are the headstocks that look more Gibsony, that are going to be on the new ones, just like they were for Epi in the old days, or a new look to spruce it up? The former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretplay Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 If you are looking at Casinos by Epiphone the made in Japan by Matsumoku are the way to go. An 80s model is as good as anything made in USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Yes. I agree. But, they're not Made In The USA Casinos. I already have 3 great Casinos.. An IBJL Revolution, a Ltd Edition RI 50th Anniv. 1961 Casino with Tremotone & a Ltd Edition Peerless Casino with Bigsby.. I would like to have the USA Royal Tan Casino.. I'll add a B7 Bigsby... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) The new USA Casino.. Edited January 26, 2020 by mihcmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I wonder if they get bonus points every time they use the word "iconic"? Good for Epiphone for finally coming back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Looking at the video they mention the neck being sunk further into the body. After spending forever getting used to the length of a Firebird I don't think one of those Casinos would work for me, it would feel as cramped as a Les Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 56 minutes ago, SteveFord said: Looking at the video they mention the neck being sunk further into the body. After spending forever getting used to the length of a Firebird I don't think one of those Casinos would work for me, it would feel as cramped as a Les Paul. I never had a problem reaching the first fret on my BB and I'm only 5'9" with little baby hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: I never had a problem reaching the first fret on my BB and I'm only 5'9" with little baby hands. I play a Firebird V, LP's, 335's, Fenders, Gretsch's & Casinos.. Love them all... Short Neck or Long Neck it's pretty easy to switch.. The only one I have difficulty are the 3/4 Ric 325's... Wish I didn't because it's a cool Guitar... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Larsongs said: I play a Firebird V, LP's, 335's, Fenders, Gretsch's & Casinos.. Love them all... Short Neck or Long Neck it's pretty easy to switch.. The only one I have difficulty are the 3/4 Ric 325's... Wish I didn't because it's a cool Guitar... My friend had one of those baby (John Lennon) Rics and let met borrow it. Way too small for even me. Edited January 27, 2020 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 53 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: My friend had one of those baby (John Lennon) Rics and let met borrow it. Way too small for even me. Lennon's first guitars were small, what I would call sailor guitars, he played one of those small 5/8 scale Ric's on the Ed Sullivan show. It seems he preferred small scale guitars through most of the early Beatles years. They reworked, rebuilt, customized and painted most of their early guitars. It took them quite a while to get up to what we might call student level guitars. They must have been really determined to succeed with what they had to work with. It just goes to show that its in the hands of the player, not the quality of the instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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