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We've gone up exponentially, as expected. I think 163 last night. Some people are just being stupid, such as hosting and going to a "coronavirus party" and then someone there got it, probably passed it to the others there and then they passed it to others, etc.

Only one here in our county so far and he's quarantined.

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It's the numbers.  One person infect three.  In turn those three infect three others each.  After the 10th iteration it is 59,000 infected.  Either let it rip or this modeling can apply. 

https://www.smh.com.au/national/8-in-10-australians-need-to-stay-home-to-flatten-the-curve-new-modelling-20200325-p54dsu.html

Depends on individuals adhering to it, or made to do so, as well as the Governments approach.

Best of luck  you may need it.

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3 hours ago, Black Dog said:

The problem with this virus is that it strikes some healthy individuals even young and a moderate amount of 40-50 year olds who have no pre existing illness and are otherwise healthy. It hits some hard and causes an acute respiratory distress syndrome requiring ventilation. Many of these folks are dying. Overall in the population it may not be as bad but if you are one of those unfortunate folks it's a different story. It may be genetic predisposition to having an immune response explaining why only some get it. No one at this time is sure if they are predisposed. I sure as hell don't want to take the chance. Immune response may explain the effectiveness of chloroquine which is an anti malarial and also used for rheumatoid arthritis - a well known disease caused by an immunological response.

I read a lot about the hantavirus last year when I was exposed moving into temporary housing. Many people who get have no problem, just a flu like illness. Some require ECMO (extra corporeal membrane oxygenation - essentially a lung bypass). Physicians are discussing the possible use of ECMO now for corona virus. Corona virus is possibly similar to hantavirus in clinical behavior.

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The problem with all viruses is that they kill some people.  With H1N1 in 2009 it was healthy young kids.  There are variations every year with seasonal Influenza.  With Covid it's mainly older sicker people and some young people too.  The point is that overall the mortality of this virus seems low.   It also seems that large segments of the population get exposed and infected but never develop any symptoms or illness.  (https://spectator.us/half-uk-population-already-coronavirus/)

The problem with the current information age is that in a case like this you have raw data being fed 24/7 real time to the public who can't interpret that data. 

3.2 million people filed for unemployment here in the US last week.  That's going to go way up. 

Health cares workers are being attacked due to shut downs.  http://camdennewjournal.com/article/health-workers-reminded-to-remove-ids-after-work-following-reports-of-muggings

And just now doomsday predictions revised:  https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/26/neil-ferguson-coronavirus-imperial-college-doomsday/

I'm not saying it's not bad.  I'm not saying that sick and at risk people shouldn't stay home.  The current "15 days to slow the spread" rules are completely appropriate.  Widespread and prolonged shutdowns are harming people too.

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Some more numbers from Oregon from yesterday.   So far 7269 total tested and 6953 are negative.  That's 95% negative which is great.  Especially because that is not a random sample from the general population.   We are limiting testing to only people felt to be at high risk for actually having the infection.  That's because we don't have enough testing capacity in terms of tests and PPE to test everyone.  I think that's basically what's being done nationwide.  The national numbers are about 85% negative which is still pretty good.

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Appears to be getting even worse.  Now over 10,000 deaths in Italy and close to 6,000 in Spain.  Take extreme care pps.  This may probably last for months.

From quick talks I have had even though a mammoth effort is being put into to develop a vaccine and amazing progress has been made in two months, the expectation is it will take around 18 months for one to be available.  That time frame is still astounding when you consider it can take years.

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