merciful-evans Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 13 hours ago, Wmachine said: Thanks. I'm embarrassed to admit that was just part of the haul. Is your camera battery all charged up again now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 If you look at Gibson prices for Standard level guitars over the last five years or so, I think you'll find that they've come down or stayed almost level. Les Pauls, SG's, 335's. They're about the same price they were about five years ago. I paid about 3 grand for a LP standard in 2019. They're about 2800 now. I paid 2500 for my 335 in 2012 - I think it listed for 2700, now they're about 2800. I think Gibson's prices are pretty good right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I had a '57 ES-225TD (not the year of my birth), but definitely vintage. Older does not mean better. The POS would not say in tune and howled like a banshee when anywhere near and amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmachine Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 11:42 AM, merciful-evans said: Is your camera battery all charged up again now? Okay, guess I can do 3 more. 2015 Flying V Made for Japanese market 2015 Firebird V. A real work of art! 2015 ES-175D '54 ES-175D Ltd in Jim Dickinson Burst. One of 50. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunking101 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 16 hours ago, badbluesplayer said: If you look at Gibson prices for Standard level guitars over the last five years or so, I think you'll find that they've come down or stayed almost level. Les Pauls, SG's, 335's. They're about the same price they were about five years ago. I paid about 3 grand for a LP standard in 2019. They're about 2800 now. I paid 2500 for my 335 in 2012 - I think it listed for 2700, now they're about 2800. I think Gibson's prices are pretty good right now. LP Standards are £2399 now, well that's the RRP anyway. The RRP was £1999 12 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Wmachine said: Okay, guess I can do 3 more. 2015 Flying V Made for Japanese market 2015 Firebird V. A real work of art! 2015 ES-175D '54 ES-175D Ltd in Jim Dickinson Burst. One of 50. Thanks! Terrific collection👍 I bought a bunch in 2015 after 40 years of only ever having a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmachine Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 5:41 AM, merciful-evans said: Thanks! Terrific collection👍 I bought a bunch in 2015 after 40 years of only ever having a couple. Yes, the forum fueled hysteria over the 2015s gave us the opportunity to buy some really great new Gibsons at insanely cheap prices. Like my LP Junior for $480 (with hard case). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Wmachine said: Yes, the forum fueled hysteria over the 2015s gave us the opportunity to buy some really great new Gibsons at insanely cheap prices. Like my LP Junior for $480 (with hard case). That's right. What a great deal you had there! And those USA cases are excellent. Though I paid full price for my ES-339 that year (Memphis models remained the same), I got 49% off the LP Less+ here. jdgm played it recently and said he'd like to take it home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Indeed I did and would. I like the 2015 wide neck as I have dem fat fingers.... mmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmachine Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 6 hours ago, merciful-evans said: That's right. What a great deal you had there! And those USA cases are excellent. Though I paid full price for my ES-339 that year (Memphis models remained the same), I got 49% off the LP Less+ here. jdgm played it recently and said he'd like to take it home. Nice! Lost in the petty complaints about Les Pauls signature were significant upgrades to the 2015s like real MOP inlays, thicker fingerboards, titanium saddle and hard cases for all, including the lesser models that didn't usually get hard cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I think they left what they're now calling the Designer Models (Firebird, Explorer and Flying V) and the ES models alone for 2015, it was only the Les Paul and SG models that got the different necks and all the rest. Is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, SteveFord said: I think they left what they're now calling the Designer Models (Firebird, Explorer and Flying V) and the ES models alone for 2015, it was only the Les Paul and SG models that got the different necks and all the rest. Is that correct? Pretty sure they did not produce Explorers & Vs in 2015. They did make a Firebird with the changes (except for tuners it seems ). Essentially, if it was built in Nashville it had the changes (see the link). If it was Memphis then it was business as usual. http://legacy.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2015/USA/Firebird-V.aspx The link above lists these changes for the Firebird New and Improved in 2015 Zero Fret Adjustable Nut (patent applied for): Added action adjustment Upgraded Tune–o–matic bridge with titanium saddles: Ease of height adjustment and sustain Wider neck and fingerboard: Increased playing area with same string spacing Comprehensive wood selection and grading: Rarest and finest materials for best instruments Thicker Rosewood Fingerboard: Increased mass for sustain Pearl Inlays: Better appearance and value Smoother sanded, buffed and oiled fingerboard: Improved playability and feel Comprehensive Setup (Lower Frets, Improved Plek, Intonation): Silky smooth action and bending, improved intonation Improved contact output jack: Secure contact and uninterrupted signal More robust cables: Stronger signal strength New & Improved Hardshell Case: Improved protection (up to 15 foot drop), sleek, ergonomic, made in USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmachine Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 8:48 AM, merciful-evans said: Pretty sure they did not produce Explorers & Vs in 2015. They did make a Firebird with the changes (except for tuners it seems ). Essentially, if it was built in Nashville it had the changes (see the link). If it was Memphis then it was business as usual. http://legacy.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2015/USA/Firebird-V.aspx The link above lists these changes for the Firebird New and Improved in 2015 Zero Fret Adjustable Nut (patent applied for): Added action adjustment Upgraded Tune–o–matic bridge with titanium saddles: Ease of height adjustment and sustain Wider neck and fingerboard: Increased playing area with same string spacing Comprehensive wood selection and grading: Rarest and finest materials for best instruments Thicker Rosewood Fingerboard: Increased mass for sustain Pearl Inlays: Better appearance and value Smoother sanded, buffed and oiled fingerboard: Improved playability and feel Comprehensive Setup (Lower Frets, Improved Plek, Intonation): Silky smooth action and bending, improved intonation Improved contact output jack: Secure contact and uninterrupted signal More robust cables: Stronger signal strength New & Improved Hardshell Case: Improved protection (up to 15 foot drop), sleek, ergonomic, made in USA Yes, basically correct. "Business as usual" for Memphis. Correct on the Firebird. No "regular production" for Explorers and Vs, but as I posted earlier, there were at least Vs made for the Japanese market sans any of those USA special features. And there were also a number of USA big dealer models that did not have those features too. Like my 2015 LP Trad Pro 3T (GC/MF) Furthermore, there were also some upgrades "thrown in" on certain models. Like gloss finish on the 2015 SG Special (normally faded/satin finish) and '61 Ziebra pups. $530 from Sam Ash again including hard case. To all the whiners about the 2015 models, I say "Thank you very much!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Why, so they did. I've never seen a 2015 Firebird, I always thought that Zero Fret nut was interesting despite the initial roll out being made out of recycled soda cans or something similar. My 2014 really could stand that improved output jack on the 2015, I have to use an O-ring on the cable's male connector to get it to seat right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 10 hours ago, SteveFord said: Why, so they did. I've never seen a 2015 Firebird, I always thought that Zero Fret nut was interesting despite the initial roll out being made out of recycled soda cans or something similar. My 2014 really could stand that improved output jack on the 2015, I have to use an O-ring on the cable's male connector to get it to seat right. You serious? That’s BS Steve. I never understand why Gibson guys tolerate that QA garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/2/2022 at 10:06 PM, Sgt. Pepper said: The answer is of course "YES". The CEO's kids gotta eat. I stopped off at 5 different shops yesterday I had never gone to before. (2+ hours from my home). One shop was said to be the guitar place for all the local area musicians. (The closest guitar center was over 120 miles away). The only new LPs he had were a 2021 Standard and a couple of Studios. The shop owner felt they were priced out of his market, and his customers don't even buy the Studios anymore. At a second store, they had 5 or 6 new Gibson's but the guy working there said they hadn't sold a LP this year. He had a Standard gold top for 2,800. I asked him jokingly if he would take offers. He said check back in 6 months it would probably still be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nifty said: I stopped off at 5 different shops yesterday I had never gone to before. (2+ hours from my home). One shop was said to be the guitar place for all the local area musicians. (The closest guitar center was over 120 miles away). The only new LPs he had were a 2021 Standard and a couple of Studios. The shop owner felt they were priced out of his market, and his customers don't even buy the Studios anymore. At a second store, they had 5 or 6 new Gibson's but the guy working there said they hadn't sold a LP this year. He had a Standard gold top for 2,800. I asked him jokingly if he would take offers. He said check back in 6 months it would probably still be there. Apparently that is not where the dentists, lawyers, doctors, or Jim Irsay shops. Edited June 28, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) On 6/28/2022 at 8:03 AM, Nifty said: I stopped off at 5 different shops yesterday I had never gone to before. (2+ hours from my home). One shop was said to be the guitar place for all the local area musicians. (The closest guitar center was over 120 miles away). The only new LPs he had were a 2021 Standard and a couple of Studios. The shop owner felt they were priced out of his market, and his customers don't even buy the Studios anymore. At a second store, they had 5 or 6 new Gibson's but the guy working there said they hadn't sold a LP this year. He had a Standard gold top for 2,800. I asked him jokingly if he would take offers. He said check back in 6 months it would probably still be there. Did the Goldtop have P90’s? Sweetwater can’t keep them in Stock! I was interested but gone! It weighed 9.5 lbs.. Not sure I want another anchor though… Wish Gibson would reissue the Goldtop ES Les Paul with P90’s & Bigsby.. I’m in! Edited June 30, 2022 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/30/2022 at 1:20 AM, Larsongs said: Did the Goldtop have P90’s? Sweetwater can’t keep them in Stock! I was interested but gone! It weighed 9.5 lbs.. Not sure I want another anchor though… Wish Gibson would reissue the Goldtop ES Les Paul with P90’s & Bigsby.. I’m in! https://www.portmansmusic.com/p-40217-gibson-lps5p900gtnh1-les-paul-std-50s-p90-gold-top-wc.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Nifty said: https://www.portmansmusic.com/p-40217-gibson-lps5p900gtnh1-les-paul-std-50s-p90-gold-top-wc.aspx Is that a Floor model & people come in & play it? I think a lot of guys go to Stores, try out new Guitars, then purchase that same model new Guitar, untouched in the box, at bigger discounts online…… Not saying it’s good or bad, right or wrong.. Just saying.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Larsongs said: Is that a Floor model & people come in & play it? I think a lot of guys go to Stores, try out new Guitars, then purchase that same model new Guitar, untouched in the box, at bigger discounts online…… Not saying it’s good or bad, right or wrong.. Just saying.. It was about 15 feet high up on a wall. Its not a big shop at all. I'm certain they don't have more in the back or anything. One person in there who seemed like the owner. That city is near dead. I bet he gets three or four people in there a day if that. Just call and ask him. He seemed like a nice gent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 10:09 AM, Eracer_Team said: In Ontario Canada our gas price just went to $2.10_9 per liter (times that by 3.67 to get US gallon) The company that makes custom size boxes for my company can't deliver for more than 8wks (used to be 5 day delivery) citing pandemic slow down . That's just one portion that contributes to what prices are. Yes , prices are going up every few months actually its x 4.5 4.5 litres in US gal. , what the heck tho a house here starts at 8-9. over a mil in Vic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 8:08 AM, badbluesplayer said: If you look at Gibson prices for Standard level guitars over the last five years or so, I think you'll find that they've come down or stayed almost level. Les Pauls, SG's, 335's. They're about the same price they were about five years ago. I paid about 3 grand for a LP standard in 2019. They're about 2800 now. I paid 2500 for my 335 in 2012 - I think it listed for 2700, now they're about 2800. I think Gibson's prices are pretty good right now. Depends on which model. The Satin finished one is $2999. The regular ES-335 is $3499 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 $2k for a Standard and they'd make more money total. With all sorts of recessions, energy prices rising a s o, people aren't going to prioritize $3k guitars, I don't think. Of course, same probably goes for $2k guitars, I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Pinch said: $2k for a Standard and they'd make more money total. With all sorts of recessions, energy prices rising a s o, people aren't going to prioritize $3k guitars, I don't think. Of course, same probably goes for $2k guitars, I dunno. People will, but people will also have to have the G word on their headstock. And if you or I don't buy them, Gibson knows someone will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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