philfish Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Gibson J- 25 https:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1621780738342544/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Yes, they made them around 1983. Nashville I presume. I had a very early one, serial number 012. It’s in the UK now. Might have been a prototype or some type of pre-production build. Very nice sunburst, prettier than others I’ve seen since. They had a laminated top. They stopped making them in 1985 I think. Around 1990 they found about 200 of the bowls in storage and shipped them to Bozeman. The folks at Bozeman joked about the bowls and called them “oil pans”. They ultimately made guitars out of them and the model designation was OP-25 (oil pan). The Bozeman ones have solid tops as far as I know. They were available with or without pickups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Ewwwwww 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWG4927 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 The pizza shouldn't have the same texture as the box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, JWG4927 said: The pizza shouldn't have the same texture as the box. Heheh he. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 That must sound like . . . (insert describing word here) ____________. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: That must sound like . . . (insert describing word here) ____________. an Ovation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) I remember seeing those hanging on music shop walls, I recall thinking Gibson must have been on puppy chow to go in this direction, I racked them up though to being a holdover of the 1970s when there was no grass growing under the feet of Gibson's R&D Department when it came to at least electrics. At the time I recall thinking they did have a J45 thing going down but still something was off. But that was a long time back and what that was I cannot put into words. Edited June 19, 2023 by zombywoof 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Dave F said: an Ovation Safe answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Here's mine. Or ex-mine. As to tone, I don't remember it being particularly unGibson. Not saying it would compete, but it wouldn't get beat up in the parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) There was one for sale on AGF a few months back. I almost bought it … because curiosity. I bet it would gig fine, record even better, and be a great conversation piece. Edited June 20, 2023 by Salfromchatham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Salfromchatham said: There was one for sale on AGF a few months back. I almost bought it … because curiosity. I bet it would gig fine, record even better, and be a great conversation piece. Gig with it you could, record with it you could, talk about it, yep, but put it up against a M-36 and the M-36 would make it cry like 4 year old that got pushed off the merry go round. If it’s so good why is it not in production? Edited June 20, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, Salfromchatham said: There was one for sale on AGF a few months back. I almost bought it … because curiosity. I bet it would gig fine, record even better, and be a great conversation piece. Wouldn't last a month in your corral 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Very innovative. Making guitars from leftover case material helped Gibson survive The Great Wood Shortage of 1983. RBSinTo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Salfromchatham said: There was one for sale on AGF a few months back. I almost bought it … because curiosity. I bet it would gig fine, record even better, and be a great conversation piece. Yep. Those Ovations were used for many decades by some mighty fine players on some mighty big stages. Owen had one, and he eventually bought another one and probably owns it to this day. We used it on the first cd, and live in every show for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) An Ovation was my first acoustic and only foreign made guitar I ever owned. They were so fun to play especially when they started sliding down your leg due to the genius that said "Hey lets make the back round". Yeah, Cat played one, I think Macca used one on the Wings Over America Tour, and others I can't remember. Maybe I saw video of Melissia Etheridge with one? Edited June 20, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 A strap solves that issue. This one was American made. When Roy Clark and Chet Atkins are checking out your solo, it doesn't matter what guitar you're playing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Acoustic guitars, of course, were still being built in Kalamazoo in 1983. But I agree that the J25 has Nashville written all over it. Oddly though, 1983 was also the year that Kalamazoo went in a new direction deciding to return to the guitars which had put them on the map and tasked Abe Wechter with building a protype slope shoulder singe X braced J45. Kind of schizophrenic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbasher Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: An Ovation was my first acoustic and only foreign made guitar I ever owned. They were so fun to play especially when they started sliding down your leg due to the genius that said "Hey lets make the back round". Yeah, Cat played one, I think Macca used on the Wings Over America Tour, and others I can't remember. Maybe I saw video of Melissia Etheridge with one? I bought a Kaman (the cheap version of an Ovation) to keep at work. I had the problem with it sliding down my leg. So, I put a strip of Anti-Slip Tread Tape on the bottom of the bowl. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil OKeefe Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: An Ovation was my first acoustic and only foreign made guitar I ever owned. They were so fun to play especially when they started sliding down your leg due to the genius that said "Hey lets make the back round". Yeah, Cat played one, I think Macca used on the Wings Over America Tour, and others I can't remember. Maybe I saw video of Melissia Etheridge with one? She was an Adamas (high-end Ovation) endorser, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I used an expensive, Connecticut made Custom Legend for a long time. For taking an acoustic out into the wild, any environment, no idea what you are up against tonight, you can't beat them with anything. I miss that guitar. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 As many of you know, I once collected US made Applause guitars, made in Moosup, CT from 1976-1983. I had 66 of them in one room. Underdog stuff. Some of it was rescue. Some of it was pity. They’re all gone now. I also sold off all my “real” Ovations but a couple years ago I tracked down and bought back one of my favorites, a prototype of the 1983 Collectors Edition, super shallow bowl cutaway. And a couple months ago I picked up a rough 1968 Deluxe Balladeer shiny bowl with an excellent neck set and 4 massive top cracks. It’s hydrating in its case for an extended period until the cracks close up so I can cleat them. Ovations falling off your lap is definitely a thing. They make little non-slip adhesive things cheap, and they work. Of course there are straps too… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Murph said: A strap solves that issue. This one was American made. When Roy Clark and Chet Atkins are checking out your solo, it doesn't matter what guitar you're playing... Sadly he rode off to the Rodeo. If you were a member of The Wreaking Crew you could hold your own and then some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ksdaddy said: As many of you know, I once collected US made Applause guitars, made in Moosup, CT from 1976-1983. I had 66 of them in one room. Underdog stuff. Some of it was rescue. Some of it was pity. They’re all gone now. I also sold off all my “real” Ovations but a couple years ago I tracked down and bought back one of my favorites, a prototype of the 1983 Collectors Edition, super shallow bowl cutaway. And a couple months ago I picked up a rough 1968 Deluxe Balladeer shiny bowl with an excellent neck set and 4 massive top cracks. It’s hydrating in its case for an extended period until the cracks close up so I can cleat them. Ovations falling off your lap is definitely a thing. They make little non-slip adhesive things cheap, and they work. Of course there are straps too… And then there is almost every guitar maker that doesn’t make theirs with round plastic backs. Edited June 20, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionMark Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) I played a J-25 at a guitar show a number of years ago. It had kind of a cheap feel to it, to my recollection. Though it was selling for a cheap price, I passed on it with no regret. QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Edited June 21, 2023 by QuestionMark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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