Pinch Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Let the oil sit for how long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I dont know but I suspect regool's guitar is over oiled. I researched lifting frets a couple of days back, and a video I saw showed some frets that could not be glued into place. The reason was because under them was some green gunk. Not only was the oil partly responsible for the frets lifting, but it was preventing any glue being squeezed in. If I used any oil (and I dont), I wouldn't let it sit for any length at all. I'd smear a drop on & wipe it off again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Hopefully the frets on the LP I oiled stays on then... Previously I didn't let it sit long, but this year I thought, hell, rosewood can't absorb oil in five minutes. 30 minutes and the fretboard, which has always been light, was considerably darker. Guess it's a trade-off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 hours ago, merciful-evans said: I dont know but I suspect regool's guitar is over oiled. I researched lifting frets a couple of days back, and a video I saw showed some frets that could not be glued into place. The reason was because under them was some green gunk. Not only was the oil partly responsible for the frets lifting, but it was preventing any glue being squeezed in. If I used any oil (and I dont), I wouldn't let it sit for any length at all. I'd smear a drop on & wipe it off again. this IMHO is exactly correct! wipe it on, rub it off. I spend more time with a dry cloth than I do with the oiled one. Also, get your finger nail in there with the rag over it and scrub out the edge of the frets on both sides. You wont believe the stuff that comes off on the rag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle fester Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Pinch said: Hopefully the frets on the LP I oiled stays on then... Previously I didn't let it sit long, but this year I thought, hell, rosewood can't absorb oil in five minutes. 30 minutes and the fretboard, which has always been light, was considerably darker. Guess it's a trade-off... Un-researched and just following the thread of thoughts in my head - I agree with this. I feel conditioning a fretboard periodically (sparingly... every several years or so) is a maintenance item to keep it from overdrying. I also think leaving it on longer to penetrate better is a good idea, but to the key is to wipe off any excess. I feel cleaning the fretboard with a soft toothbrush and water first isn't a bad idea as well to make sure gunk build up does not become a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, uncle fester said: Un-researched and just following the thread of thoughts in my head - I agree with this. I feel conditioning a fretboard periodically (sparingly... every several years or so) is a maintenance item to keep it from overdrying. I also think leaving it on longer to penetrate better is a good idea, but to the key is to wipe off any excess. I feel cleaning the fretboard with a soft toothbrush and water first isn't a bad idea as well to make sure gunk build up does not become a problem. 0000 steel wool is what most will use. Some say 0000 brass wool is better?.. watch this guy. This is exactly as I've done for many years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, kidblast said: 0000 steel wool is what most will use. Some say 0000 brass wool is better?.. watch this guy. This is exactly as I've done for many years Gorgomyte is awesome. Highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Pinch said: Gorgomyte is awesome. Highly recommended. I forgot about these!!! I think I'll try one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I use Duraglit silver wadding polish. Same sort of thing I think. Oiling boards; if it doesn't sink into a rosewood board then the board doesn't need it and the residue should be wiped off (IMO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Since 1971 I've never oiled any fingerboard at all. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, rct said: Since 1971 I've never oiled any fingerboard at all. rct Since I first started playing at 13 till I was 28 and sold off the whole 9 yards, I never oiled a guitar. Never had a problem. Have to confess I do now only because so many have done it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Five minutes or so every string change or once a year, whichever comes first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, rct said: Since 1971 I've never oiled any fingerboard at all. rct oh man... you don't know what yer missin..... 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 Some of the gunk I thought was left over, I could scrape off with just my fingernail. Just at one spot. Now I'm concerned it was glue from the fret gluing... there's still gotta be enough glue left under the fret and in the fret slot, right... this was like on the fingerboard just next to the fret, miniscule amount. Need I worry? OCD is a WONDERFUL ****ing thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Pinch said: Some of the gunk I thought was left over, I could scrape off with just my fingernail. Just at one spot. Now I'm concerned it was glue from the fret gluing... there's still gotta be enough glue left under the fret and in the fret slot, right... this was like on the fingerboard just next to the fret, miniscule amount. Need I worry? OCD is a WONDERFUL ****ing thing. Well you could check to see if the fret lifted by pressing it down. Maybe even clamp the fret down carefully & watch to see if anymore oozes out. The account I related earlier. I didnt watch all of it & I suspect he resolved the problem somehow (with some cleaning method?). Check if you have a problem 1st. Hopefully not, but if so I will try to find that vid again. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, merciful-evans said: Well you could check to see if the fret lifted by pressing it down. Maybe even clamp the fret down carefully & watch to see if anymore oozes out. The account I related earlier. I didnt watch all of it & I suspect he resolved the problem somehow (with some cleaning method?). Check if you have a problem 1st. Hopefully not, but if so I will try to find that vid again. Good luck Nah, the fret seems fine. I have a tendency to overthink things at times, I guess. Too much stress all round right now 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pinch said: Nah, the fret seems fine. I have a tendency to overthink things at times, I guess. Too much stress all round right now 😕 I'm glad. 😄 Sorry if I spooked ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, merciful-evans said: I'm glad. 😄 Sorry if I spooked ya! Oh, I can do that all by myself! It's not like I scraped out the glue in the fret slot. Need another vacation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I'm a minority of one - but I've been using Coconut Oil for nearly 8 years. Works Great. No chemicals. Organic. Chefs use it for their cutting boards. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 20 hours ago, fortyearspickn said: I'm a minority of one - but I've been using Coconut Oil for nearly 8 years. Works Great. No chemicals. Organic. Chefs use it for their cutting boards. Coconuts need oiling?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 That's why Pina Coladas go down so easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 Wait a minute... Gibsons don't come with the frets glued in? I admit total ignorance here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) On 8/7/2020 at 8:50 AM, kidblast said: 0000 steel wool is what most will use. Some say 0000 brass wool is better?.. watch this guy. This is exactly as I've done for many years Isn't that the guy that can change stings in just a hair over 3 minuets? I've used coconut oil and currently I'm using Bore Oil and distilled water. Edited August 12, 2020 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) Check this out, should clean out any gunk when re-fretting: https://www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/types-of-tools/chisels-and-knives/fret-slot-cleaning-tool/Reviews/Page5.html#reviews Guess I should do something more productive than overthink. There's this one spot that... and blah blah... maybe wait til there's a problem before addressing it... Edited August 12, 2020 by Pinch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NighthawkChris Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 The only thing I worry about with a fretboard drying out is fret sprout. I suppose it is worth it to address this more than it is to address how the fretboard looks - especially if you have bound neck. I've seen quite a few older Gibsons that have had fret sprout and you will see where they cut the binding. From everything I have read, it's because of the fretboard drying out and shrinking. I mean, it's not the worst thing that can happen to a guitar I suppose, but if all it takes is something to apply to the neck to keep the moisture it has inside of it to prevent it from shrinking or whatever, why the heck not? Other than that, I suppose if you don't like a fretboard that is dried out looking - for darker woods such as ebony, pau ferro, or rosewood - then maybe some oil can't hurt. The initial thread @Pinch referred to I participated in and the verdict was to use lemon oil. Well, I've heard that straight up lemon oil will dry the fretboard out. Hence why I use the f-one oil specifically for fretboards. As well, also tried the Gibson restoration kit that comes with fretboard conditioner and it works great too - comes with a nice soft cloth rag too. I also don't marinate the fretboard whatever I apply - i.e. read directions. Wipe on, wipe off is what is usually the instruction. I don't know all the "science" about this stuff (don't really care to either), but that's what I've been told and my Gibbys don't have issues with anemic looking fretboards or fret sprouting. I live in MI as well where the weather gets dry in winter and humid in summer. Yes, I'm adjusting my truss rods slightly every season change because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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