Thundergod Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 well im too lazy to post pics or anything' date=' but on the gc tag it said it was mahogany, does guitar center lie to me[/quote'] Well they've been known to bend the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexybeast14 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 aaaw that makes me sad, so its probably not mahogany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Do the Fender Strat taste test for Alder/Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 aaaw that makes me sad' date=' so its probably not mahogany?[/quote'] Tell you what, most people would trust their children to Michael Jackson and the pope before trusting GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexybeast14 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 haha well that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 does guitar center lie to me http://forums.gibson.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 i have an epi' date=' it aint no mystery wood its mahogany[/quote'] An Epi what? SG - Les Paul. SGs' are mahogany Les Pauls are something. I don't really know what. With a veneer pseudo maple cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 My Ash Strat has a completely different "Strat Voice " than my Old Poplar one, which is an '88. I change the Pick Ups from the original, humdrum single coils found in most '80s Fenders with some Lace Sensor, and it kept it's "Voice", it has more Power and clarity, but the same Voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoRedFoot Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Do the Fender Strat taste test for Alder/Ash. I have one of each....the Ash guitar has more sustain, great acoustic quality and is f-ing heavy compared to the alder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovohm Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 it's all a mental pippa. I suppose the guitar could be made of betulla or pioppo but if it plays plays. Cerea ne' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzoboy Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The type of wood has a more profound effect on acoustic guitars that electrics as they are more relaint on the wood density and vibrations whereas an electric solid body guitar is more dependant on the density of the wood other than other factors as the density greatly affects the vibration and sustaining properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Happy Birthday to this thread! Two years old this very day month! My, I remember when it was just a young baby and several of the previous posters had yet to be banned... How time flies! P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan H Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Although different woods will sound different due to several factors including density, moisture retention and grain patterns, and even inconsistencies within a single wood species, there's another factor that can greatly influence the wood's character. Multi-piece bodies and necks. As soon as you introduce Glue into the equation, Wood species takes a secondary role. The resonant properties of a multi-piece guitar is based on the quality of the glue that holds it together, and the quality of the gluing job that was done on it. If there are gaps or bubbles between two pieces of wood, they won't transfer vibrations properly. If properly glued, Then wood species can be taken into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 IMHO, I believe the type of wood has much less effect on the sound of a guitar than the cumulative effects of hollow v. semi-hollow v. solid body construction, pickups, strings, picks, amps, pedals, and ambiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinh Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 On the Epi/Gibson debate, I have to report a contrary result to many of the posters. I recently repaired a new Epi Les Paul Studio with a mulit-piece walnut body and a broken headstock. Although I'm not keen on the liquid poly finish, the quality of the instrument was otherwise excellent, it sustains forever, and (unlike my new ES 355) was easy to tune, no "sticking" in the nut. I was putting it together as a gift for a high school student who lost his guitar under some dubious circumstances, and was somewhat tempted to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelinguy Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I think the pickguard is the most important. It adds so much tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinh Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I think the pickguard is the most important. It adds so much tone. Absouloutly! So few people realize that the old growth Dupont plastic found on the '59 Les Paul pickguard sounds so much better that the modern asian-sourced plastic! It adds a depth and sweetness to the tone that you just can't get from modern materials. Also the old craftsmen used to hand shape and thickness each one, tuning them to each particular instrument. Now they're just a souless machine thicknessed piece of plastic. I hear however, that on the highest custom shop models, they are using a stock of ancient plastic found in Michigan, hand shaped by a 95 year-old ex-employee of the Kalamazoo plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanH Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I used to own two Epi LPs- a studio and a standard plus. Unplugged, both sounded great- very resonant and the standard plus in particular had an amazingly fat, deep tone to it but the studio felt nicer to play. Anyway, pickup upgrades brought them right up there in to Gibby territory in terms of tones. However, what this thread hasn't considered yet (I don't think) is the quality, craftsmanship and feel difference. My Gibbys are both faded/satin models and the quality of the wood is there for all to see with beautiful grain showing through. What's more, better quality wood is much easier to work with so the craftsmanship has a better chance of being superior. What I also like is the feel of those better woods. Both my Gibbys have a great fretboard and play like butter with only minor set up tweaks. Same argument goes for my superstrats. While my cheap and cheerful Kramer Pacer Classic is a blast to play and offers amazing value, my USA Charvel and my J-Craft Ibanez Prestige have a real feel of quality feel when you pick them up and play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The most important factor in the color , or colur if you're a fer'ner, of the guitar. Orange or yellow burst guitars sound warmer than black ones. Greens ones sound cool. Blue guitars sounds best when stacked in a pile and burned. Never play a blue guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahKeen Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The faces you make determine if the notes sound good or not. It's been proven, debunked, and proven again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 You guys have it all wrong. It is, always has been, always will be, the factory in <Most Favored Asian Manufacturing Nation du jour Of The Day> that it was made at that matters. The current factory is never as good as the last factory, that's about the only rule you can follow. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinh Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 So to compile the opinions: The best sounding instrument is a a solid old-growth mahogany and maple instrument, finished in nitrocellulose, with the correct aged plastic parts, colored red, and manufactured in the Xhing Ju "People's Glorious Factory for Production of Electric Guitar #1 " between April 7 and May 12 of 2011 ( QC went to hell on May 13th)............. but only if you pull the right face while playing it. They're an odd lot on this board........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Holy necro thread batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Old growth Honduran mahogany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc3c46 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I had an Epi SG Jr. with a P-90. Sounded pretty damned good for a $90 guitar. The wood felt like Balsa. I had an Epi "Korina" 58-style Flying V - completely rewired with Duncan pickups. Sounded pretty damned good too - if a bit thin and harsh. The veneer made it look good at first glance, but the wood inside was almost like chalk.... With both guitars, I did not have the luxury of comparing them to their Gibson inspirations. Both were made in Korea in the late nineties, both played well, both made of sh!t wood. If you see the opening scenes of the movie It Might Get Loud, you'll see what I mean. Me? I will NOT be paying money for Chinese Mystery Wood, no matter what kind of veneer they stick on it. Good to have you back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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