Mr. Gibson Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 John Cruz got canned for something he posted on Facebook, freedom of speech is going to be a thing of the past if this shiit keeps up. Fukk you fender I'm going to ignore my fender products for 10 minutes,that'll show ya.lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. Gibson said: John Cruz got canned for something he posted on Facebook, freedom of speech is going to be a thing of the past if this shiit keeps up. Fukk you fender I'm going to ignore my fender products for 10 minutes,that'll show ya.lol Yeah I'm not gonna touch my Martin just in case CFM IV opens his yap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Well that sucks. First they shut down their forum and now this. According to a Facebook post of 2 June by bassist Gregor Fris, Cruz had posted a highly distasteful image in connection with the recent protests in the USA. Fris later commented on his own post giving an update, saying Fender had called him to say that Cruz had been relieved of his duties. He said: Fender called me today and we had a very friendly and constructive conversation about this incident. At this point, John is not (sic) longer employed at Fender. The whole executive team is now sitting down to discuss how to shake things up within their team and their own rows … I never wanted this, but kudos to Fender for taking a stand. Maybe it’s the right time to make some tough decisions. Edited June 11, 2020 by ghost_of_fl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Ok I found the meme he posted. It's a white Jeep that is covered in (fake) blood mostly on the front like it just drove through a crowd of people. The Jeep has a (fake) severed arm on the hood and a (fake) severed human head stuck in the grill. The caption: "I don't know what you mean by protesters on the freeway. I came through no problem". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, Mr. Gibson said: freedom of speech is going to be a thing of the past if this shiit keeps up. IMO, not a 'freedom of speech' issue. Fender Corp can't have you posting stuff like that using an account that says: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibson Posted June 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I'm sending a strongly worded letter to Fender about this. None of Fenders business what he posts on social media. Who needs big brother watching them. No one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 This is not new. Are you retired? "Employers continue to monitor employees’ online presence even after they’re hired. Nearly half of employers (48 percent) say they use social networking sites to research current employees— 10 percent do it daily. Further, a third of employers (34 percent) have found content online that caused them to reprimand or fire an employee." https://www.careerbuilder.com/advice/not-getting-job-offers-your-social-media-could-be-the-reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle fester Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Don't want to get fired for posting something dumb, don't post something dumb. If you want to post dumb stuff, and don't want to get fired, start your own business. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Mr. Gibson said: John Cruz got canned for something he posted on Facebook, freedom of speech is going to be a thing of the past if this shiit keeps up. Fukk you fender I'm going to ignore my fender products for 10 minutes,that'll show ya.lol a few months ago I gave my daughter my '72 Strat that I've had since '74. few weeks ago I sold my "Performer" Seafoam green Strat. for the 1st time in 46 yrs, I'm Fenderless ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Karloff said: a few months ago I gave my daughter my '72 Strat that I've had since '74. few weeks ago I sold my "Performer" Seafoam green Strat. for the 1st time in 46 yrs, I'm Fenderless ... I own half of a Fender. My '95 American Standard J Bass needed a new neck and I got Warmoth replacement. In this country (USA) we have freedom of speech, but I don't believe hate speech is protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) If he was fired for being a twit that seems harsh in these days of counselling services etc to re-educate staff - especially when it's for foolishness rather than physical violence or intimidation or whatever. Not condoning his insensitive and stupid actions, but seems harsh to get fired. Of course Gregor Fris (?) could have quietly and quickly contacted Fender to voice his concerns, but heck, that's not half as self important as calling the bloke out publicly on farcebook. Edited June 11, 2020 by 'Scales 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Social media is another virus we need to figure out... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: In this country (USA) we have freedom of speech, but I don't believe hate speech is protected. All speech is protected. BUT you take your chances with the backlash for the things you say. And if your speech incites violence, you may get a visit from the FBI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I strolled right into the Kustomme Shoppe like I owned the joint. Was going in to see the pallets of blank woods, see how nice theirs were compared to USA and Mexico. Not. A. Soul. Nobody. 6, 8 benches maybe? All neat and tidy, tools stowed, nothing on any benches. Nobody around, on a random Tuesday. It would have been nice to see some of these jokers trying to get a tele jack out or something important but no, nothing. Tumbleweeds. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 When I had a Dodge Ram pickup, I use to tie a Santa Claus on the front grill with his arms and legs spread out - looking like I'd run into him and he got plastered to the grill. I thought it was funny - compared to the people who put antlers on their side windows anyway. I did this for a half dozen years. Never got one single complaint. I guess I was offending the wrong people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Yeah that's exactly the same thing. Weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, kidblast said: Social media is another virus we need to figure out... Your on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 1st Amendment protects you from the government not your employer. There's no laws that keep us from being asswholes. I lock down my FB page so that the only people that see my insanity is the people that I trust. Edited June 11, 2020 by Big Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, fortyearspickn said: When I had a Dodge Ram pickup, I use to tie a Santa Claus on the front grill with his arms and legs spread out - looking like I'd run into him and he got plastered to the grill. I thought it was funny - compared to the people who put antlers on their side windows anyway. I did this for a half dozen years. Never got one single complaint. I guess I was offending the wrong people. What kind of feedback would you have gotten if you'd used Jesus' likeness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Your on one. well, if you want to get TECHNICAL and all........ but this is hardly comparable to what goes on in twitter and facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, zigzag said: What kind of feedback would you have gotten if you'd used Jesus' likeness? my guess, none....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, kidblast said: Social media is another virus we need to figure out... well said Ray ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_of_fl Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 "virtual chat" is the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, kidblast said: well, if you want to get TECHNICAL and all........ but this is hardly comparable to what goes on in twitter and facebook T-watter and Farcebook. I am not on. I do have an Imugr acct to post photos here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I was on FarceBook several years ago. Probably took 5 or 6 months before I realized it was like swimming in a cesspool. Got off, tried to delete everything. Wouldn't even think of Twitter. Human Resources weenies - Employment 'professionals' use to call prior employers to get a 'reference' for a potential 'new hire'. That stopped working because the 'new hires' started suing their former employers for what they told the HR people where they applied. So, the HR Weenies started to use your Credit Score ! Just think how lame that is for a minute. Recently - these geniuses flocked to looking at FB as a form of 'due diligence' in hiring people. I'm just worried they'll get my report card from when I was in Junior High. Worse, ask my old bus driver if I was 'respectful'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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