Leonard McCoy Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Summer is almost upon us. It's getting hot and dry out there, and so is your throat when inhaling between phrases during singing. Though counterintuitive, avoid drinking any water, tea, or alcoholic beverages. Here are the top three things to really help you out (in this order): 1. Pineapple juice (one glass alone carries you through a whole set) 2. Strawberry juice 3. Honey (raw, not mixed in tea or something) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 If I’m outside, I’ll have water nearby. Inside I always have coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robroy Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I make a real strong tea out of grated ginger and water, that’s all. Bring to a boil, strain and refrigerate. It works great to clear throat and vocal cords. I also use honey as a gargle. Buckwheat honey is the best. Pineapple juice sounds like a good suggestion too cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Curious as to the source of these "top three remedies"? Also curious as to why you shouldn't drink water? I worked for a major opera company for 18 years (in charge of the technical areas) and can assure you that the singers drank huge amounts of water. One of the assistant stage managers' jobs was always keeping a large supply of bottled water available for them during rehearsals and performances. These singers have to compete with a full orchestra and fill a 3000 seat theatre with their voice without amplification. I don't know... perhaps that makes it different? Edited June 7, 2021 by Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSoxBiker Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, Boyd said: Curious as to the source of these "top three remedies"? Also curious as to why you shouldn't drink water? I worked for a major opera company for 18 years (in charge of the technical areas) and can assure you that the singers drank huge amounts of water. One of the assistant stage managers' jobs was always keeping a large supply of bottled water available for them during rehearsals and performances. These singers have to compete with a full orchestra and fill a 3000 seat theatre with their voice and no amplification. I don't know... perhaps that makes it different? On a related note, I was wondering what Pavarotti used? I recall him have big battles with the chords. it seemed to always make the music news when he had to cancel shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Don't know, but I have a related funny story.... I was the Director of Design and Technology for the Opera Company of Philadelphia which was known as "Pavarotti's Company" for many years since they hosted his vocal competition and featured him in their shows. A coupl years after my boss (Robert Driver) became the new General Manager of the company, Pavarotti cancelled his appearance in "La Boheme" at the last minute, citing health issues and the need to go to a "fat farm" (seriously). This was a financial disaster for the company, with everyone cancelling their tickets without him. In reaction, Robert cancelled the whole Pavarotti competition, citing the huge costs involved in catering to his whims. This was very well-received by the business community, since the company was on the brink of bankruptcy. The Philadelphia Inquirer actually ran a front page headline that said "Chow, Baby" with an un-flattering picture of the overweight Pavarotti. This was in 1992, just before I was hired to take over the technical departments (which were all way over budget) with a mandate for "technical reform". The whole transition was a huge success and we had many good years after (although there were understandably some sour grapes and related lawsuits). OK, sorry for the off-topic diversion. I never worked with Pavarotti myself, but heard all the stories, some are quite outrageous. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionMark Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I used to drink coffee, regardless of performing being indoors or outdoors, but, switched to water a few years ago. QM aka "Jazzman" Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Hot tea with honey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSoxBiker Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 22 hours ago, Boyd said: Don't know, but I have a related funny story.... I was the Director of Design and Technology for the Opera Company of Philadelphia which was known as "Pavarotti's Company" for many years since they hosted his vocal competition and featured him in their shows. A coupl years after my boss (Robert Driver) became the new General Manager of the company, Pavarotti cancelled his appearance in "La Boheme" at the last minute, citing health issues and the need to go to a "fat farm" (seriously). This was a financial disaster for the company, with everyone cancelling their tickets without him. In reaction, Robert cancelled the whole Pavarotti competition, citing the huge costs involved in catering to his whims. This was very well-received by the business community, since the company was on the brink of bankruptcy. The Philadelphia Inquirer actually ran a front page headline that said "Chow, Baby" with an un-flattering picture of the overweight Pavarotti. This was in 1992, just before I was hired to take over the technical departments (which were all way over budget) with a mandate for "technical reform". The whole transition was a huge success and we had many good years after (although there were understandably some sour grapes and related lawsuits). OK, sorry for the off-topic diversion. I never worked with Pavarotti myself, but heard all the stories, some are quite outrageous. 😂 I had a funny thought just a few minutes ago. I watched the movie Crazy Heart a few minutes ago. Jeff Bridges playing a washed up drunk ex-Country Rocker type playing in dives and bowling alleys. The thought of your man having to go through that sort of tour struck me as amusing. 4 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: Hot tea with honey. This reminded me of an odd one-off product that seemed to help me in the past. With my vocals, I should have never stopped. Just sort of forgot about it. There was this one tea - "Throat Coat" by a company calling themselves Traditional Medicinals. It's lead flavor bar on the package says "LEMON ECHINACLEA". It's got this creepy coating sensation and does seems to work, especially with added honey. I'd much rather drink a standard issue tea, though. That said, I should try it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Crazy Heart ... you don't want to confuse the half filled plastic milk container with the yellowish liquid for your bourbon bottle while driving your Suburban through the desert South West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 cool water, as much as my bladder can hold and NOT ice water. nothing else works as well for hydration,.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Glassa wine and a cheap cigar, gallons of water. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1. youth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Bubblegum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) I used to sing my lead vocals in a song-booth with a lit candle (so that the reduced oxygen would leave me a tooth dizzy and of course for the atmosphere). 1 strong beer to take the top of the excitement a cup of coffee with milk to keep the vocal-cords warm and a burning cigarette for the groove and to create a little haziness around the situation. . Nowadays only the coffee/milk is left, but I never really warm up like the 20 minutes of singing cover-songs when younger. Live I kind warmed up too - had a throat-exercise or three. Could be here-and-there-problems if the gig the day before had been too wild - and that high A just had to be reached about 5 times during the sets. Thanx for good advice - lots of tricks out there. Guess one can't know too many. Anyone heard of raw eggs btw. . Edited June 11, 2021 by E-minor7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD323 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Biotene, get it in Amazon or over the counter drug stores. Recommended by doctors specifically for dry mouth. It works! https://www.amazon.com/Biotene-Moisturizing-Mouth-Spray-Gentle/dp/B01IA9CB7W/ref=sr_1_3?crid=DHVWJ5UO9R3G&dchild=1&keywords=biotene+mouth+spray&qid=1623374495&sprefix=biotene+mo%2Cgarden%2C164&sr=8-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionMark Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Since I posted a few days ago that I used to drink coffee during outdoor or indoor gigs, but switched some years back to water…I have reassessed what I wrote. Maybe because this posting string put the subject in my mind and because in Chicagoland this past week it’s been exceptionally humid besides being it’s normal warm for this time of year. Because of the excessive humidity during my outdoor gigs this past week, I at times switched back to coffee as coffee is known in a pinch to open up one’s airways a bit. And, with the excessive humidity, and little or no wind, coffee served the purpose of helping me to better breathe by its ability to open my airways a bit more in the heat and humidity. So, though I’ll continue for the most part and stick to water, depending if there is a very high humidity and heat factor with little wind during my outdoor summer gigging , I’ll probably at times switch to coffee to help open my airways a bit when needed from high humidity. QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Marlboro red. Jack. And I guess Luden’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard McCoy Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) On 6/7/2021 at 3:11 PM, Boyd said: I worked for a major opera company for 18 years (in charge of the technical areas) and can assure you that the singers drank huge amounts of water. One of the assistant stage managers' jobs was always keeping a large supply of bottled water available for them during rehearsals and performances. These singers have to compete with a full orchestra and fill a 3000 seat theatre with their voice without amplification. I don't know... perhaps that makes it different? And you don't see the irony here when ill-informed professional performers load up on huge amounts of water despite their bodies not being dehydrated and drinking them ad nauseam unable to combat a dry throat? Makes me crack up each time I see it. Edited June 20, 2021 by Leonard McCoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertSmith Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 On 6/20/2021 at 11:47 PM, Leonard McCoy said: And you don't see the irony here when ill-informed professional performers load up on huge amounts of water despite their bodies not being dehydrated and drinking them ad nauseam unable to combat a dry throat? Makes me crack up each time I see it. It's a little late but I agree with you. It's so actual for opera singers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exceptioncaribo Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, RobertSmith said: It's a little late but I agree with you. It's so actual for opera singers Opera... I love it so much but I can't imagine how hard it is. I'm studying at the musical college and I'm often talking with opera singers and must say that it's hard work. Recently, when I prepared my coursework on this theme, this source and the stories of that people helped me a lot. It's so bad idea to drink more water than you need but it helps them with their voices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Tim Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 On 6/20/2021 at 4:47 PM, Leonard McCoy said: And you don't see the irony here when ill-informed professional performers load up on huge amounts of water despite their bodies not being dehydrated and drinking them ad nauseam unable to combat a dry throat? Makes me crack up each time I see it. Most people are chronically dehydrated at baseline… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 I read at different times you're supposed to drink 8 glasses of water a day. I'm guessing that is mis-information put out by the Bottled Water Industry. I've also read that you can drink too much water - cells get too full of water and you feel different types of symptoms. The solution: BEER. You pass out before you over-hydrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 6 hours ago, fortyearspickn said: The solution: BEER. You pass out before you over-hydrate. That was always my strategy. And it worked for many decades. Then suddenly, it didn't... Sober for over 12 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exceptioncaribo Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 23 hours ago, exceptioncaribo said: Opera... I love it so much but I can't imagine how hard it is. I'm studying at the musical college and I'm often talking with opera singers and must say that it's hard work. Recently, when I prepared my coursework on this theme, this source https://paperap.com/free-papers/opera/ and the stories of that people helped me a lot. It's so bad idea to drink more water than you need but it helps them with their voices. I'm a geek of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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