Rusty Mcdangles Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Traded a really nice acoustic for this guitar, I knew it was too good to be true, can’t believe I fell for it. Be careful out there guys Edited September 19, 2021 by Rusty Mcdangles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 that's a shame, very frustrating I'm sure.. Sorry to hear this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NighthawkChris Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Shucks man, sorry to hear you got taken... Hard lesson to learn unfortunately. I'm sure you will be more careful next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang Gang Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Though not real hopefully it plays and sounds OK? Sorry to hear you got scammed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Mcdangles Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Ya I don’t own a lot of electrics so thought I’d give it a try, had no idea honestly, I looked up the number online and said it was legit. Guy said he had changed the pick ups, it sounds pretty decent to be honest, just a shame…my acoustic was worth $1000+. Lesson learned I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 commiserations RM. That must sting. But how is the guitar anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I assume the guy you traded with won't answer and now blocked your phone number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I like it. And I have a penchant for jacked up fakes and cast-off pawn shop irregulars. What do you want for it? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 5 hours ago, merciful-evans said: But how is the guitar anyway? Look at the post before your post. Your answer is right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 2:30 PM, Rusty Mcdangles said: Ya I don’t own a lot of electrics so thought I’d give it a try, had no idea honestly, I looked up the number online and said it was legit. Guy said he had changed the pick ups, it sounds pretty decent to be honest, just a shame…my acoustic was worth $1000+. Lesson learned I guess. this is the glaring problem with counterfeits and why it's damn shame no one does anything about.. It's one thing to disclose the fact it's not authentic, it's another entirely to goad someone into a deal, knowing full well what they have and what YOU are giving up in trade. Some people are bound to give humanity a bad name,, like this jack a$$ you ran into. I'm sorry this happened all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 hours ago, brad1 said: Look at the post before your post. Your answer is right there. Is it really? I just checked it again. Hey, you must really know your stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Actually Merc... Brad is right. Rusty's answer that was just above your post: "it sounds pretty decent to be honest, " Edited September 22, 2021 by Eracer_Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 11:56 AM, Eracer_Team said: Actually Merc... Brad is right. Rusty's answer that was just above your post: "it sounds pretty decent to be honest, " I've now read it 3 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-T-Pockets Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 So how do you know for sure this is fake (the headstock doesn't look right, but I'm no expert). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, M-T-Pockets said: So how do you know for sure this is fake (the headstock doesn't look right, but I'm no expert). It's very obviously fake. The only way it isn't is if they hired someone new and gave them free run of the factory with a guidebook but no live training.. and let them bring parts from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) I'm not so sure... Serial number: 017160676 Production year: June 20, 2006 (Batch:0 Product nr.: 176) (Manufactured in Nashville) Most of the 06 Standards I have looked at have a blank nut cover, like the 06 below and others just say Standard. His doesn't look right, like its an aftermarket cover. To me the hardware looks correct, the seller said he changed the PU's, I can't tell from the photos of the headstock if its a three piece or not and it looks like a factory installed Bigsby So I'm thinking it would be worth contacting Gibson Support 1-800-4GIBSON or contact https://www.gibson.com/Support/Customer-Service Also you can submit a form for possible Counterfeit. https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Support/Report-Counterfeits Edited October 23, 2021 by mihcmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 This is… VERY obviously fake.. If you’re struggling to figure out if this is real or not, you probably shouldn’t weigh in on the subject at all. Or maybe you’re having a bad day. I can’t identify a single part that looks real or correct for an LP Standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Dub-T-123 said: This is… VERY obviously fake.. If you’re struggling to figure out if this is real or not, you probably shouldn’t weigh in on the subject at all. Or maybe you’re having a bad day. I can’t identify a single part that looks real or correct for an LP Standard So you are credible enough to stand in a lawsuit that it is a fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 11 hours ago, mihcmac said: So you are credible enough to stand in a lawsuit that it is a fake? I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 The photos aren't clear enough for me to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 mihcmac with all due respect it is clear that you don’t know what to look for regardless of the photo resolution If you have any questions I can easily answer them but as I said literally every part of the guitar is wrong. Without even getting into specifics, ask yourself what finish is this even supposed to be similar to from the Les Paul Standard lineup over the years? When has Gibson ever made a Les Paul Standard with a factory installed Chinese bigsby copy? Even just pretending that’s a real Bigsby, when has Gibson ever made their flagship model in that color with that hardware? You’re looking for headstock wings on a headstock with the wrong finish, decal/printed serial number, wrong shape, wrong tuners, wrong inlay, wrong silkscreen, etc etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) Your probably right, I have only been looking at Gibsons for 60 years. On one of my translucent Cherry finished guitars when the light hits it wrong it just looks solid red. Even on this black Gibson Custom below has a questionable looking SN. on his I see blurred out tuners, but this 06 Standard below you can see Gibson Deluxe and the 3 piece headstock. All I'm saying is there is not enough information to determine on way or another without taking it into a credible luthier and having it checked out. Edited October 24, 2021 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I am definitely right, everyone else who said this is fake were right, and being old doesn’t really qualify you here. Your transluscent red guitar that you’re comparing to is an Epiphone or Gibson? Gibson has implemented many changes over the years, this matches none of them. I am aware of all serial number formats that have been used on Gibson Les Pauls. I am aware of all headstock shapes and tuner configurations available on Les Paul Standards. This matches none of them. Again if you have any questions feel free to ask. I was only suggesting that you lack the knowledge to make any kind of evaluation here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) Your answer is too absolute, there is always a margin for error without actually seeing the guitar.. Edited October 24, 2021 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Not in this case. Gibson never made a Les Paul to Chinese counterfeit specs. You don’t understand what you’re looking at in the pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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