Valeriy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I have read Sgt. Pepper's topic "Is He For Real". And I think Joe Bonamassa is really somewhat upset that it takes so long to find his guitar, his unique sound, and guitars, in turn, become more and more expensive. If you remember, Brian May once immediately found his only guitar (Red Special) and, after trying others, eventually, as I read, returned to it. But his Red Special is from a vintage wood 100 years old! Most likely, Joe is a little unlucky with this; none of his 500 guitars really reach the 100-year vintage mark , and he certainly feels it when he plays. Okay. How many guitars does a guitarist need then? After some thought, I counted 4 or 5 including an acoustic one. Maybe 6 with some vintage guitar or M2M guitar "made to measure" as is now offered by the Gibson Custom Shop. So, these are following, as I think: 1. a classic 2-pickup guitar (LP one etc.) with neck and bridge pickup positions, 2. a guitar with a middle pickup that has a different sound than the neck or bridge pickup, 3. a guitar with out-of-phase pickups (Peter Green sound), this sound is also different from all others, 4. an acoustic guitar, 5. a vintage guitar or M2M one, and for me personally additionally 6. an electric guitar with one favorite pickup (for me in the neck position), here I mean a pickup of my own design, which I usually use in the neck position, I like its sound. And the best thing is when it this pickup alone on a guitar, in this case my electric guitar sounds almost like an acoustic one. This is like a basic guitar set necessary for a guitarist. And, considering that there are guitarists who prefer one single guitar, for example Brian May with his Red Special guitar, then I think this set of 4 or 5 guitars may be quite enough for most guitarists. But this is of course my personal opinion. Perhaps I don’t know some guitar models, so your opinion is also interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Valeriy Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 yet, х+1 this is GAS, even mad GAS as it was said in the topic Is He For Real regarding Joe and his 500+etc guitars. But not all guitarists are infected with this "addiction". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil OKeefe Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 36 minutes ago, Rabs said: I agree with, and endorse this equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) I think Joe is venting cause he thinks they shouldn’t cost that much, and he wants 100 more for 1/100th the price. We all do, yet he keeps buying them, and throwing it in guitar collectors faces that he can, because of his financial status. Should a LP from ‘59 cost 1/2 a million, of course not. But should a house just because it sits on dirt in California cost 1.2 million, of course not. But it’s how it is with real estate and vintage axes. Joe bores me. He can play very well, but it’s just notes and no soul. Good on him. Buy all the guitars you want Joe, I’ve got what I want and need. I’ll never pay to see him play ever again. Saw him once, and didn’t even know he was on the bill. Rick Derringer said it best. Guitars and women cost and they take so damn much. Edited June 17 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil OKeefe Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 57 minutes ago, Valeriy said: I have read Sgt. Pepper's topic "Is He For Real". And I think Joe Bonamassa is really somewhat upset that it takes so long to find his guitar, his unique sound, and guitars, in turn, become more and more expensive. If you remember, Brian May once immediately found his only guitar (Red Special) and, after trying others, eventually, as I read, returned to it. But his Red Special is from a vintage wood 100 years old! Most likely, Joe is a little unlucky with this; none of his 500 guitars really reach the 100-year vintage mark , and he certainly feels it when he plays. Okay. How many guitars does a guitarist need then? After some thought, I counted 4 or 5 including an acoustic one. Maybe 6 with some vintage guitar or M2M guitar "made to measure" as is now offered by the Gibson Custom Shop. So, these are following, as I think: 1. a classic 2-pickup guitar (LP one etc.) with neck and bridge pickup positions, 2. a guitar with a middle pickup that has a different sound than the neck or bridge pickup, 3. a guitar with out-of-phase pickups (Peter Green sound), this sound is also different from all others, 4. an acoustic guitar, 5. a vintage guitar or M2M one, and for me personally additionally 6. an electric guitar with one favorite pickup (for me in the neck position), here I mean a pickup of my own design, which I usually use in the neck position, I like its sound. And the best thing is when it this pickup alone on a guitar, in this case my electric guitar sounds almost like an acoustic one. This is like a basic guitar set necessary for a guitarist. And, considering that there are guitarists who prefer one single guitar, for example Brian May with his Red Special guitar, then I think this set of 4 or 5 guitars may be quite enough for most guitarists. But this is of course my personal opinion. Perhaps I don’t know some guitar models, so your opinion is also interesting. Re: #4: Only one acoustic? I have two parlor/short scale acoustics, a pair of 6 string dreadnought/jumbo bodied acoustics with different back and side woods (for different tonalities), an acoustic that is Nashville-strung, a nylon string acoustic, and a 12-string acoustic. All of them have different tones and uses. As far as electric guitars go, I honestly probably don't need three Les Pauls, two SGs, or three short scale Fenders (Mustang/Duo Sonic/Musicmaster), but I can certainly justify owning one of each, along with my Strat, Tele, Rickenbacker, Casino, PRS, Danelectro 12-string, Gretsch, etc. - all based on each having its own unique sound. YMMV. At a current count of about 30, I honestly think I'm getting close to having everything I really want and need, but I still need a lap steel with a bender or two, a Dobro, and a couple of other things to fill out the herd. I'd say I'm probably going to be good once I reach 35, and certainly no more than 40. Again, YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Easy answer....all of them! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Valeriy said: I have read Sgt. Pepper's topic "Is He For Real". And I think Joe Bonamassa is really somewhat upset that it takes so long to find his guitar, his unique sound, and guitars, in turn, become more and more expensive. If you remember, Brian May once immediately found his only guitar (Red Special) and, after trying others, eventually, as I read, returned to it. But his Red Special is from a vintage wood 100 years old! Most likely, Joe is a little unlucky with this; none of his 500 guitars really reach the 100-year vintage mark , and he certainly feels it when he plays. Okay. How many guitars does a guitarist need then? After some thought, I counted 4 or 5 including an acoustic one. Maybe 6 with some vintage guitar or M2M guitar "made to measure" as is now offered by the Gibson Custom Shop. So, these are following, as I think: 1. a classic 2-pickup guitar (LP one etc.) with neck and bridge pickup positions, 2. a guitar with a middle pickup that has a different sound than the neck or bridge pickup, 3. a guitar with out-of-phase pickups (Peter Green sound), this sound is also different from all others, 4. an acoustic guitar, 5. a vintage guitar or M2M one, and for me personally additionally 6. an electric guitar with one favorite pickup (for me in the neck position), here I mean a pickup of my own design, which I usually use in the neck position, I like its sound. And the best thing is when it this pickup alone on a guitar, in this case my electric guitar sounds almost like an acoustic one. This is like a basic guitar set necessary for a guitarist. And, considering that there are guitarists who prefer one single guitar, for example Brian May with his Red Special guitar, then I think this set of 4 or 5 guitars may be quite enough for most guitarists. But this is of course my personal opinion. Perhaps I don’t know some guitar models, so your opinion is also interesting. Valerly, I am a mediocre, amateur, non-gigging, non-recording guitar player, so for me, the number of "necessary" guitars is really just one. By way of full disclosure, and to muddy the waters, I own four acoustics, and two electrics. I suppose I could make a reasonable case for one of the electrics as well. The other four, not so much. They are the result of "want", not "need". RBSinTo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Valeriy said: I have read Sgt. Pepper's topic "Is He For Real". And I think Joe Bonamassa is really somewhat upset that it takes so long to find his guitar, his unique sound, and guitars, in turn, become more and more expensive. If you remember, Brian May once immediately found his only guitar (Red Special) and, after trying others, eventually, as I read, returned to it. But his Red Special is from a vintage wood 100 years old! Most likely, Joe is a little unlucky with this; none of his 500 guitars really reach the 100-year vintage mark , and he certainly feels it when he plays. Okay. How many guitars does a guitarist need then? After some thought, I counted 4 or 5 including an acoustic one. Maybe 6 with some vintage guitar or M2M guitar "made to measure" as is now offered by the Gibson Custom Shop. So, these are following, as I think: 1. a classic 2-pickup guitar (LP one etc.) with neck and bridge pickup positions, 2. a guitar with a middle pickup that has a different sound than the neck or bridge pickup, 3. a guitar with out-of-phase pickups (Peter Green sound), this sound is also different from all others, 4. an acoustic guitar, 5. a vintage guitar or M2M one, and for me personally additionally 6. an electric guitar with one favorite pickup (for me in the neck position), here I mean a pickup of my own design, which I usually use in the neck position, I like its sound. And the best thing is when it this pickup alone on a guitar, in this case my electric guitar sounds almost like an acoustic one. This is like a basic guitar set necessary for a guitarist. And, considering that there are guitarists who prefer one single guitar, for example Brian May with his Red Special guitar, then I think this set of 4 or 5 guitars may be quite enough for most guitarists. But this is of course my personal opinion. Perhaps I don’t know some guitar models, so your opinion is also interesting. I agree with the spirit of this listing, but there are provisos and conditions to ponder. Guitarist = Non-live-performing, bedroom player. Whatever guitars he can afford. Guitars that bring him pleasure. Guitarist = Occasionally gigging musician. Whatever dependable guitars he can afford. Guitars that bring him pleasure. Guitars that stay in tune. Guitars that sound right for the songs in the set lists. Usually, this is 1. A Les Paul. 2. A Strat or Tele. 3. A decent acoustic-electric. 4. (depending upon degree of Metal songs in the set lists) A Jackson or Ibanez with a Floyd Rose. Guitarist = Professional, gigging musician. Guitars that work for him. Guitars that don't feed back horribly. Lots of spares. Numerically, see the list right above. Guitarist = Professional studio musician. Guitars guaranteed to work, every single time. 1. A really great sounding acoustic guitar. 2. A Les Paul. 3. A Strat or Tele. 4. Any great electric with a good tremolo on it. 5. A hollow body or semi-hollow jazz guitar. Ibanez or ES-335. Guitarist = Old man with a bad back and sore joints, from any of the above categories Guitars that don't weigh a lot. Guitars that sound wonderful and stay in tune. Guitars you can grow old with. Many of us are still searching....... 🤨 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 When you have to put masking tape on the outside of the case and write what's in there, you've got enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10PoundLester Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 A 335, a good Tele and an OM would get you through most gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 18 minutes ago, SteveFord said: When you have to put masking tape on the outside of the case and write what's in there, you've got enough. I use a silver Sharpie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I've got too many guitars and I could get rid of about 3/4 of them and never notice which ones were missing. BUT. The market is not good right now. They may as well sit in their cases instead of me taking a beating on them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 17 minutes ago, SteveFord said: When you have to put masking tape on the outside of the case and write what's in there, you've got enough. I use a silver Sharpie. I only have 11.....but the six acoustics I put in order of acquisition....so I know which one is which by where they're stored in my closet. The electrics are easy to recognize because the cases are so different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NighthawkChris Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 (edited) Some guys buy cars, some guys buy boats. Some guys buy houses, some buy guns… I have guitars - 14 right now. This is the most I’ve ever had. But life is short, buy another guitar. I have a shirt that says I love it when my wife lets me buy another guitar. When I wear it, she knows what’s going down haha! @Rabs if all the math problems I’ve been faced with centered around guitars, I think I’d be right there with the likes of Albert jotting down all that fancy text on a chalkboard 🙂 Edited June 18 by NighthawkChris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 I have too many but still want more 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 5 hours ago, Phil OKeefe said: Re: #4: Only one acoustic? I have two parlor/short scale acoustics, a pair of 6 string dreadnought/jumbo bodied acoustics with different back and side woods (for different tonalities), an acoustic that is Nashville-strung, a nylon string acoustic, and a 12-string acoustic. All of them have different tones and uses. As far as electric guitars go, I honestly probably don't need three Les Pauls, two SGs, or three short scale Fenders (Mustang/Duo Sonic/Musicmaster), but I can certainly justify owning one of each, along with my Strat, Tele, Rickenbacker, Casino, PRS, Danelectro 12-string, Gretsch, etc. - all based on each having its own unique sound. YMMV. At a current count of about 30, I honestly think I'm getting close to having everything I really want and need, but I still need a lap steel with a bender or two, a Dobro, and a couple of other things to fill out the herd. I'd say I'm probably going to be good once I reach 35, and certainly no more than 40. Again, YMMV. Perfect justification 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 (edited) 13 hours ago, SteveFord said: When you have to put masking tape on the outside of the case and write what's in there, you've got enough. This why I have all mine out on racks 😄 Now the tape is just to remember which case is whose when we need to pack them up in a hurry like a tornado warning 😆 Just had to do this last week, and we ended up in a Sophie’s Choice situation deciding the most expendable children due to lack of space in the safe zone. It was harsh. I gotta get a better case for my 1910 L1. I realized it didn’t stand a chance against any weather in its cardboard sheath. Edited June 18 by PrairieDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Esquire, Broadcaster, NoCaster, Tele, Strat, Precision, Jazz, couple few handful of Martins, and whatever Gibsons you think you want. That should do it. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx-ogre Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 I have 2 LPs, 2 SGs and an ES-335 so I have Gibsons pretty much covered. Also a 6 string Ltd. A 7 string Ltd and an 8 string Ibanez so I also have extended-range guitars covered. A P-bass, a 4 string Ltd bass and a 6 string Ibanez bass. About the only other guitars that I would be interested in would be a Tele and a decent acoustic. And maybe a J-bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Some people collect Stamps, Art, Cars, Watches, Jewelry & all kinds of other Collectibles. I see nothing wrong with collecting Guitars that you can make Music with & view as Collectible Art. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdinaryNimda Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 10 hours ago, Ceptorman said: Easy answer....all of them! Some might laugh, but this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 You can never have enough Gibsons 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 5 Les Pauls, 5 Teles, a Strat, a Firebird, a 335, a Rabswood double cut ... and the acoustic(s) of your preference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 35 minutes ago, duane v said: You can never have enough Gibsons Duane, Sure you can. I have one. A j-45. That's all the Gibsons I need. Or want. And to show I'm a fair, while I'm a Martin guy, I don't lust after a complete set of them either. RBSinTo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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