SteveFord Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I have a 2019 Les Paul Gold Top with the P90s and 50s neck. I see why nobody bought it, the thing weighs about as much as a Harley frame and was just totally dead acoustically - it was like the sound just died as soon as you strummed it. Plugged in it's just great. I've been playing it on and off for a few weeks and now the sound actually escapes the body. I think it just needed some playing time to perk up. Obligatory guitar porn: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I think the phrases "open up", "opened up", and "opening up" are pseudo-technical terms for that point at which a guitar player has become used to and enjoys and likes the sound of their guitar. It sort of generalizes something we all do, makes it seem like something more than it really is. "I like it a whole bunch now" is probably more accurate, but harder to legitimize. rct 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 It became louder when played unplugged which I wasn't expecting at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanHenry Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I once read an article about Yairi guitars (made in Japan and mostly classical) where they leave completed guitars hung in a room playing music to them, apparently to make the wood understand it was now a guitar! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 12 hours ago, rct said: I think the phrases "open up", "opened up", and "opening up" are pseudo-technical terms for that point at which a guitar player has become used to and enjoys and likes the sound of their guitar. When it comes to electrics, I think you make a solid point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, IanHenry said: I once read an article about Yairi guitars (made in Japan and mostly classical) where they leave completed guitars hung in a room playing music to them, apparently to make the wood understand it was now a guitar! The first thing they do to a baby when it's born is whoop it's butt so it now understands it's a baby... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I don't know what the hell happened, but that is one awesome guitar!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Is it chambered? Maybe not if it's that heavy. Back when Les died, I was gigging an ES339 and felt bad because I didn't own a Les Paul at the time, so I bought a wine red Studio in his honor, and I needed a write off. It's chambered and is loud unplugged, it's actually a great guitar. I think it's an 07/08, it was NOS. Les himself was a fan of the chambering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 13 hours ago, rct said: I think the phrases "open up", "opened up", and "opening up" are pseudo-technical terms for that point at which a guitar player has become used to and enjoys and likes the sound of their guitar. It sort of generalizes something we all do, makes it seem like something more than it really is. "I like it a whole bunch now" is probably more accurate, but harder to legitimize. rct I think that's it. I'll get stuck on one or two guitars for awhile & one amp. my ear gets accustomed to hearing that combination. it's familiar & comfortable . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 40 minutes ago, Murph said: Is it chambered? Maybe not if it's that heavy. Back when Les died, I was gigging an ES339 and felt bad because I didn't own a Les Paul at the time, so I bought a wine red Studio in his honor, and I needed a write off. It's chambered and is loud unplugged, it's actually a great guitar. I think it's an 07/08, it was NOS. Les himself was a fan of the chambering. I believe that is a 2019 50s Standard with P90s, they're not weight relieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, Murph said: The first thing they do to a baby when it's born is whoop it's butt so it now understands it's a baby... So that was my problem!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 Not chambered, it's close to 10 pounds. I actually did put my first Firebird VII next to a speaker for a few months and it helped it collect dust, I don't think it did anything else. The VII I have now was super stiff feeling when I first got it, it just needed around 1000 hours of playing time to beat it into submission. That one is really loud unplugged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SteveFord said: Not chambered, it's close to 10 pounds. that's a bit on the hefty side you should put my 95 standard on your shoulder sometime It's +11 lbs. Gets pretty heavy during a session, but plugged into one of my Marshalls, it's like a Hammer of the Gods I dig this one tho.. gold top P90s,, Delish! Edited February 16, 2023 by kidblast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I have a 2019 50s Standard too, and it's easily pushing 10 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 That is a sweet looking LP!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, Dub-T-123 said: That is a sweet looking LP!!! Yep, I loves me an LP goldtop. Someday, I might even buy one. Just to be able to say I own one. But my not being able to do it justice does cause me to pause. Whitefang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 Do it. As soon as I plugged it in I went THAT'S the sound I've heard on so many albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdinaryNimda Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, SteveFord said: Not chambered, it's close to 10 pounds. I actually did put my first Firebird VII next to a speaker for a few months and it helped it collect dust, I don't think it did anything else. The VII I have now was super stiff feeling when I first got it, it just needed around 1000 hours of playing time to beat it into submission. That one is really loud unplugged. I am noticing this "submission" on an ES-335, very stiff and hard-sounding at first. The more I play, the better the sound seems to get. My thinking was, it is all psychological and just having to learn to listen to it properly. But on an LP Standard, the sound seemed super great immediately the first time I played it. (Both were new guitars with a great initial setup.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 16 hours ago, SteveFord said: It became louder when played unplugged which I wasn't expecting at all. That's unusual. Its usually the other way 'round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, SteveFord said: Do it. As soon as I plugged it in I went THAT'S the sound I've heard on so many albums. That's a great endorsement. I have a guitar like that. Except it doesn't sound like that right now (I put different type of strings on it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang Gang Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I think a solid body can "open up". Hard to prove, but I've had some that seem to become more resonant with time. This one while not a solid body has a back, sides and center block carved from one chunk of mahogany, then a carved maple top glued on. It definitely got better and better over the years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 To me solid body electrics always sound like crap to me acoustically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, duane v said: To me solid body electrics always sound like crap to me acoustically. I have to agree with this, I'm also not the least bit interested in how it sounds unplugged, that is not why I'm buying it. I'm also not at all interested in how it sounds in the store, that's not where I'll be playing it. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 First. Beautiful Gold Top there Steve. Glad it opened up for you. Second. For what it's worth, my LP Studio (which is chambered and still weighs about 9 lbs) sounded fantastic when played unplugged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 4:30 PM, rct said: I think the phrases "open up", "opened up", and "opening up" are pseudo-technical terms for that point at which a guitar player has become used to and enjoys and likes the sound of their guitar. It sort of generalizes something we all do, makes it seem like something more than it really is. "I like it a whole bunch now" is probably more accurate, but harder to legitimize. rct I agree… And doing a good Set up & putting a new set of Strings on your new or used Guitars.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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