Mr. Robot Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I think there is a real clear trend here, which I agree with... Anyone monkey can shred and play fast. It is the guitarists who use the instrument as a medium to express the music and the melodies that are in them who are the best ones. And for this, Clapton is a master. So is Keith Richards, it is just that he uses rhythm rather than melody. I get tired of the 'technically pure' guitarists who dont know the *** end of a melody or how to play with feeling. I'll take slow over fast every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 +1 Slash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkers Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 i think Slash is pretty overrated Anyone monkey can shred and play fast. It is the guitarists who use the instrument as a medium to express the music and the melodies that are in them who are the best ones As good as Paul Gilbert is he is pretty one dimensional in that he only shreds but nothin more melodic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGman94 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Brian May is one of the best guitarists out there' date=' really. +1 And yes, he is probably too young. Overrated: -Buckethead -Those slipknot guys -Michaelangelo Batio -sadly Zakk and Slash -I can't believe Kurt Cobain made the 50 best guitarists of all time list last year... but neither Robert Fripp nor Andy Summers did... just crazy.[/quote'] slipknot is the WORST BAND EVER THEY ARE GAY AND A DISGRACE TO ALL METAL...i also agree with buckethead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant7629 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Most guitarists who are "pure shredders" are terrible to listen to. Also' date=' I don't care for most of the big-name virtuosos: Vai, Satriani, Pettrucci, ugghh. Sure they can make cool sounds and play fast, but who cares? Their music for the most part SUCKS!! I'll take Angus Young any day over the lot of them. If I want to hear mindless speed, I'll go into guitar center where I can get my fair share of 15 year old kids picking and sweeping scales as fast as they can. All the while with the most serious, somber look of concentration on their face. I think to myself, "dude, is that even fun?!?" It sounds like @ss. Jimmy Page was relatively sloppy, but he was original. He had more feel than most players who could crush him with technical speed. And for that, they pale in comparison. Songs to listen to: Overdose - AC/DC --Angus Young has the absolute most raw guitar sound on the planet in the second solo of this song. It is like his guitar is pouring out molten iron onto the recorder. Since I've been Loving You - Led Zeppelin --Page's tone, and the whole composition...it's just eery. So heavy, without being tuned to drop C#, and played to machine gun drums. Far heavier than today's most "brutal" metal, while still being absolutely audibly pleasing. David Gilmour doesn't play very fast at all, and he could blow Yngwie away. Just my 2 cents..... BTW, I'm 26 years old.[/quote'] +1 on all accounts....27 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Are we talking "over-rated" of just personal preferences? Clapton is NOT "over-rated!" He may not be your "cup of tea," and that's fine. But, he's one of the best, at what he does, has improved, all along...even if there were periods (by his own admission) he was "less than in his best form." I see these comparisons done a LOT! It's really worthless! People love (not not) who they love. That's totally cool! But, this who's better than who, is a total waste of time "tail-chase," IMHO. But, that's just it...it's only MY opinion. No disrespect, to other's opinions, intended. Cheers, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesburst Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Although I know there are some Kiss fans here' date='I dare say Ace is one of the most over-rated guitarists. [/quote'] I think it depends on what you're rating guitarists on. As far as pure skill and technique, Ace would be the first to tell you he's not that great. However, on being able to entertain and inspire kids to pick up a guitar and give it a go, then Ace is in the upper echelon. Best, worst or over rated, rating a guitarist is very personal. While I can appreciate teh "skill" in a shredders work, it leaves me cold but simple pentatonic run performed with feeling and expression (Slash's first solo in Knockin' on Heavens Door) really does it for me. Over and out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynadude Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Dimebag Darrel Randy Rhoads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 You cant say people like cobain and the edge because there not considered amazing guitarists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bram Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 No guitarist is overrated. Every guitarist is unique. You play what you are as a person (with all the ups and downs). 'Better' or 'worse' doesn't exist, as long as you're one with the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJustice Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 'Better' or 'worse' doesn't exist' date=' as long as you're one with the music.[/quote'] Don't come here with that decadent, diplomatic, peace mongering European attitude! This is a US dominated forum - it's all about kicking *** and asserting superiority ;-) DJ -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Don't come here with that decadent' date=' diplomatic, peace mongering European attitude! This is a US dominated forum - it's all about kicking *** and asserting superiority ;-) DJ --[/quote'] LMAO, few beers in me I can hear the song "America...Fu*k yeah" from team America! See you do get irony! Mattxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Me. I'm really not as good as my fans give me credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawk233 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Hammett=Overrated Hetfield=Underated... Seriously listen to hetfield himself... He plays 90% of the song and really is the backbone to the song. Hammett either starts jumping in to sync up, or just does a solo, not to mention with wah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Don't come here with that decadent' date=' diplomatic, peace mongering European attitude! This is a US dominated forum - it's all about kicking *** and asserting superiority ;-) DJ --[/quote'] Dam right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 slipknot is the WORST BAND EVER THEY ARE GAY AND A DISGRACE TO ALL METAL...i also agree with buckethead You are keeping the metal faith alive me friend! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T50 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I noticed that some of you dis so called "shredders" saying anyone can learn to shred. Well, I can't shred. Can you? When you can shred but still choose to do slow solos, you would be more convincing. But if you dis shredders because they play faster than you, then you're just jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T50 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I think it depends on what you're rating guitarists on. As far as pure skill and technique' date=' Ace would be the first to tell you he's not that great. [/quote'] How can one express his feeling on a guitar without the necessary and proper skill and technique? Not talking about speed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnt Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 +1 Slash + another 1 Slash What about Noel Gallagher ( no sorry the question was about guitarists wasn't it?) No one mentioned John McLaughlin , too right! how can you overate jazz perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 How can one express his feeling on a guitar without the necessary and proper skill and technique? Not talking about speed here. Both excellent points. I agree the word technique has become associated with an instrumentalist being able to play fast flurries of notes. There is indeed as much technique in voicing a chord well, or articulating a phrase etc. I like many so called shredders. What I find distasteful is someone who chooses fast flurries of notes as an alternative to a well constructed solo because they have not the imagination to do the solo convincingly otherwise. They have bypassed phrasing etc in their learning the instrument and gone straight to what they think as the juicy bits, with egotistical results! I suppose this is an opposite of your example. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkers Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 When you can shred but still choose to do slow solos' date=' you would be more convincing. But if you dis shredders because they play faster than you, then you're just jealous. [/quote'] i dont think its about dissing them, it does take some talent to do but they become one dimensional and repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast fret Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Synster Gates from avenged sevenfold is treated like some god of metal, i don't get why](*,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Ok so I saw a topic on here for under-rated giutarists which was interesting; so I thought I would make one for over-rated guitarists to see the outcome. I think Clapton' date='Santana and Brian May are amongs the most over-rated guitarists ever. What do you's think??[/quote'] This a your attempt at humor, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kong Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Neil Young. I actually like some of his songs, but I can't (for the life of me) understand why I've heard what a great player he is so many times. At least most of those who revere him don't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Ace Frehley Actually his ratings aren't too high to begin with are they? I never heard his name used in the realm of players like Hendrix, Clapton Page, Green, Lee, and so on... And anyone familiar with the story where he had to be re-taught his guitar parts before a tour would certainly not have any high ratings on him. But never underestimate the power of marketing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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